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    WW2 trivia question......

    Curious and just thought maybe someone on here might know the answer. Before the Battle of the Coral Sea, had the Japanese carriers ever been the target of an air attack? I'm more or less just trying to gauge the comparative anti-aircraft gunners' experience level of both sides. I'm thinkin' Coral Sea was their crews' first live target test, same as the US.
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    I believe it was. Its most significant historical fact was that it was the first time a naval battle was fought with neither fleet actually sighting the other. While there are any number of web pages about the battle this is one that I found particularly interesting.

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    Yep. Notso's link tells the story well.
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    Although the big breakthrough for Midway was probably the breaking of the Japanese Naval codes, the other important note on the Coral Sea battle was that badly damaged Yorktown was repaired and present for the Battle of Midway only a month later, neither of the 2 damaged Japanese fleet carriers were available for the Midway battle. If you put the speed of repairs together with the speed of production of carriers, and the outcome in the Pacific was a foregone conclusion, although Midway hastened that outcome, attrition would have eventually taken out Japan.

    Although many of the sources danced around the subject, I believe Coral Sea was America's first employment of the naval concept of Air Fleets in which the main combatant was the Carrier and not a Battleship. Like the Nazi use of the Blitzkrieg as a battle concept using armor forces in Europe, Japan had pioneered the concept of the air fleet as a main attacking arm, much like a Blitzkrieg across water, instead of across ground. So for the American Navy to so quickly come up to par with the Japanese Navy, I mean the Battle of Coral Sea was a lot better outcome than the Kasserine Pass in North Africa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenWolf70 View Post
    ... <snip> ...Although many of the sources danced around the subject, I believe Coral Sea was America's first employment of the naval concept of Air Fleets in which the main combatant was the Carrier and not a Battleship. Like the Nazi use of the Blitzkrieg as a battle concept using armor forces in Europe, Japan had pioneered the concept of the air fleet as a main attacking arm, much like a Blitzkrieg across water, instead of across ground. So for the American Navy to so quickly come up to par with the Japanese Navy, I mean the Battle of Coral Sea was a lot better outcome than the Kasserine Pass in North Africa.
    How ironic that just last night I was watching The Military Channel's "Carriers at War" and they made that very point. The US military intelligence community was rocked to its core when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor and in one action demonstrated the superiority air power over naval power. Specifically, the Japanese recognized that the days of battleships booming at each other at sea or blasting away at targets inland were over. They (correctly) surmised that the future of military power was air power, but how to get dominant air power over an enemy thousands of miles away? Air-to-air refueling had not been developed yet so a method was needed to transport or carry your air force to that far away target. The days of air power delivered via aircraft carrier were born.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSo View Post
    I believe it was. Its most significant historical fact was that it was the first time a naval battle was fought with neither fleet actually sighting the other. While there are any number of web pages about the battle this is one that I found particularly interesting.

    https://www.delsjourney.com/uss_neos...ea/summary.htm
    Well done, NotSo. Thank you for the post and excellent link.
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    If you've never seen it, the Movie, Midway that stars Charleton Heston and many other greats like Glenn Ford (USNR) Henry Fonda and Robert Mitchum. It is a fairly accurate representation of actual events, considering it came from Hollywood.
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    I agree with what Notso said about the article about the battle of the Coral Sea.
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    I recommend to all history geeks, particularly WWII history geeks, I heartily endorse Shattered Sword: The Untold Story of the Battle of Midway by Tully and Parshall. This is the real deal, describing what really happened during the battle in incredible documented detail. Great story telling as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trotline View Post
    I recommend to all history geeks, particularly WWII history geeks, I heartily endorse Shattered Sword: The Untold Story of the Battle of Midway by Tully and Parshall. This is the real deal, describing what really happened during the battle in incredible documented detail. Great story telling as well.
    Thank you for the recommendation. I just added it to my Amazon book wish list.
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