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    The Year 2038 Problem

    Reading RandyP's post on a GPS anomaly (https://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/l...ast-night.html) brought to mind something that's potentially quite serious.

    I'm sure we all remember the kerfuffle the Y2K panic caused. Something that will likely be much more serious and will actually happen is the Unix Year 2038 problem. When the Unix operating system was created it was coded to represent time as the number of seconds that have passed since 00:00:00, January 1, 1970, as a 32-bit binary integer. This field will reach its maximum value at 03:14:07 UTC, January 19, 2038. What happens then? Better start preppin'.

    Read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2038_problem
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    We are all going to die.
    Wait.
    I'll already be dead.
    Whew.
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    Well, if I'm still around (which I plan to be) I will fleece as many big companies with my "Y2038 fix" as I can, just like many people got rich off the "Y2K fix". I was with a Fortune 500 company at the time, and we spent millions going over software that was never going to be a problem. However, the panic had taken over leadership and they refused to listen to their people, but were more than willing to listen to snake oil salesmen.

    Next time, I'm cashing in!

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    Will that affect who changes my diapers?
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    My wife was with (now defunct) Nortel Networks and headed up the Y2K efforts. She has said that the engineers and even marketing people knew that it would not be a problem but the multi-million dollar effort to ensure nothing happened was primarily a response to the panic of the customer base. The customer panic was overwhelming and she had to deploy response teams worldwide to do database and OS verification testing to assuage the fears of their global accounts. They actually had 'go teams' waiting on Dec 31, 1999, to deploy to any accounts that had hiccups. As it turned out - a big nothing burger.

    Frankly, I'm surprised that the UNIX-heads are even admitting that there might be an issue. Everyone knows that only 'real' computers use UNIX and that all UNIX base systems are faultless.
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    You guys really disappoint me. Doesn't anybody pay attention to the news? Well for those that are woefully ignorant I will fill you in. Climate change will have killed all of us by then so worrying about this issue is just plain silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chefduane View Post
    My wife was with (now defunct) Nortel Networks and headed up the Y2K efforts. She has said that the engineers and even marketing people knew that it would not be a problem but the multi-million dollar effort to ensure nothing happened was primarily a response to the panic of the customer base. The customer panic was overwhelming and she had to deploy response teams worldwide to do database and OS verification testing to assuage the fears of their global accounts. They actually had 'go teams' waiting on Dec 31, 1999, to deploy to any accounts that had hiccups. As it turned out - a big nothing burger.

    Frankly, I'm surprised that the UNIX-heads are even admitting that there might be an issue. Everyone knows that only 'real' computers use UNIX and that all UNIX base systems are faultless.
    Wow, what a name from the past. I made a few trips out to Santa Clara to meet with Northern Telecom, trying to iron out issues communicating with the SL-1 PBX. It's the first (and only) office building I ever visited in which my briefcase was opened and searched. This was back in the 80's long before Y2K was a concern.

    I was our department's sacrificial lamb to the Y2K effort, and the whole thing was a waste of money. We spent months trying to explain our system to the "expert consultants" and they still never understood anything. They were clueless, but as long as they were getting paid big bucks, the leadership would listen to them rather than to their own. It was a waste, but it was theirs to waste!
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    Why worry about 2038? According to AOC, the world is going to die in 12 years.
    That's 2031. Don't waste my time with 2038.
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    There are nerds out there working on this I'm sure. It's what they do.

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