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    Knife wielding man at Costco

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    So I just saw a video online about a man who walked into Costco a few days ago grabbed a knife and started chasing people. He was shot by a man in front of the store. I found an article on it, and it makes more sense. He was exactly charging the guy with the gun. It looked like he was taunting him.

    If he truly wanted to stab the man, being how close he was he could have. If I were the person with the gun, I would have shot a lot sooner. Apparently the knife wielding man was suicidal. I'd say this still is a score for the good guys, he potentially saved many lives.

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    Knife-wielding man at Modesto Costco wanted to commit suicide, sister says | The Modesto Bee
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    Wow. Couple of points come to mind.

    - Watching the video in the store, people in the background seem to have no clue what's going on. A guy walking around with a knife (Scott), someone with a camera recording the guy, and in the background it's, "Oh look, I wonder if they have this in my size?"

    - Once the knife-wielder fixed on a target outside (the CO), he was fixated on following the guy. I know it's armchair quarterbacking but it seemed like the CO could have gotten Scott away from the crowd (a crowd rarely being a good thing to have around when dealing with a mentally disturbed person).

    - Speaking of walking around in Condition White, I wonder if the bald guy wearing a green shirt in front of the store realized what was going on at any point before he basically had to step around the CO to get to the store (he did get fairly agile once he realized he was about arm's length away from a crazy guy with a knife ).

    - Hard to tell from the angle, but it did seem that the CO put a number of people at risk when he decided to shoot, although the moment wasn't necessarily his choice.

    Interesting video -- thanks for posting.
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    that security guard was all over it too! Impressive.

    One shot, one kill.
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    Glad nobody else was hurt, why we need to be armed.
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    I was witness to a simmilar situation once. As well as giving commands to the person with the knife the officer was telling us to get out of there or get down in case he had to pull the trigger.

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    Another reason Costco's policy of forbidding members to carry in their stores is in short: idiotic.

    Well the guy with the knife got his wish. Luckily he wasn't there to inflict as much damage as possible, else we'd see lots of cut up / dead shoppers ....
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    I was involved in a similar situation once, except we didn't have guns and the perp was intent on harming anyone in blue, not intent on suicide but not afraid of death.

    Me and another officer were in the main corridor, escorting a 45 man group of messhall workers back to their housing units. As we were approaching the "rotunda" (the central area dividing all the housing units, corridors, and control operations) the main gate closed in front of us because of attack attempt on two officers by an inmate that had shanks taped in both hands. My partner and I were able to get the inmates in the group we were escorting away from the gate and corral them into an outside area that is covered by a tower. Another gate closed them off and we were let through the other gates to assist with the incident at hand.

    As we surrounded him with batons ready, he would lunge at the nearest officer to him, then immediately turn and lunge at the officer(s) coming in from the other direction. He eventually surrendered to a Lt. (Watch Commander) that promised him that he would not be harmed if he laid down. Not one single baton strike was given because no one could get close enough without the very real possibility of getting stabbed or sliced, until he laid down. The perp was restrained, moved to special housing under camera, and moved out on the facility the next day. In a trial, he received another sentence for attempted murder charges from the incident.

    For me, the inmates on the gate that we cleared, shouting, cheering the perp on, rattling the gate, with us screaming orders at them to clear the area, was as intense if not more so than the actual incident itself. Ten of the inmates were identified by us and by cameras and charged with disrupting the order of the facility.

    Minutes seemed like hours, I assure you. It was one of the most tense and professional incidents I can recall as an officer. In all there were 8 officers and a Lt. involved. The Lt. wrote all 8 commendations presented them to us personally in line-up, with copies going in our files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreeInAZ View Post
    Another reason Costco's policy of forbidding members to carry in their stores is in short: idiotic.

    Well the guy with the knife got his wish. Luckily he wasn't there to inflict as much damage as possible, else we'd see lots of cut up / dead shoppers ....

    The Costco we go to allows us to carry.
    Although I carry concealed I have seen several people open carrying.
    No one pays any attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 230JHP View Post
    Wow. Couple of points come to mind.

    - Watching the video in the store, people in the background seem to have no clue what's going on. A guy walking around with a knife (Scott), someone with a camera recording the guy, and in the background it's, "Oh look, I wonder if they have this in my size?"

    - Once the knife-wielder fixed on a target outside (the CO), he was fixated on following the guy. I know it's armchair quarterbacking but it seemed like the CO could have gotten Scott away from the crowd (a crowd rarely being a good thing to have around when dealing with a mentally disturbed person).

    - Speaking of walking around in Condition White, I wonder if the bald guy wearing a green shirt in front of the store realized what was going on at any point before he basically had to step around the CO to get to the store (he did get fairly agile once he realized he was about arm's length away from a crazy guy with a knife ).

    - Hard to tell from the angle, but it did seem that the CO put a number of people at risk when he decided to shoot, although the moment wasn't necessarily his choice.

    Interesting video -- thanks for posting.
    I think that's why he waited so long to shoot, was because of all the people around. Definitely there's no perfect course of action to take. In the end it did work out though.

    Off topic but does anyone remember the army vet who was killed outside of Costco 6-7 years ago? That was back home in Vegas. I personally think that one got buried.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickenbacher39 View Post
    The Costco we go to allows us to carry.
    Although I carry concealed I have seen several people open carrying.
    No one pays any attention.
    That's good to know they do in your local store (good manager is my bet). Their online policies & membership documents clearly state they can & do enforce a no weapons policy.

    Hence ZERO $ from our family. If state law isn't good enough for them, neither is my money.
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