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    Curios and Relics License

    I was going through an older issue of a gun magazine and came across an article about obtaining a C & R Collectors License from the BATFE for the purpose of "collecting" firearms that BATFE classifies as "Curios and Relics".

    I was just curious if any members of the forum have this license and what your experiences have been in obtaining the license and using it to add to your collection.
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    I've got one. $30 bucks to renew every three years. Supposedly any unmodified firearm with a 50 year old receiver can be shipped directly to your front door. You are the FFL. Sometimes the ATF will put a firearm on the list for reasons unknown, but that is just a bonus. You're supposed to keep a record of who you bought from and who you sold to, as with any FFL. You're just not responsible for background checks. When milsurps were cheap and plentiful, having the license was an easy way to empty my bank account. It's been a while since I used it, but I'll renew, because you never know. Call you regional ATF office or go online to apply, just remember a C&R FFL cannot be used for a firearms business.

    If you go to online gun dealers they'll have C&R weapons marked as C&R or 03 FFL.
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    I have been attracted to the idea for a few years now and since my FFL charges 20.00 I would be ahead of the game in a short while. The expensive part would be buying a new and larger safe as mine has no room at all to this point.
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    I have a C&R and find it very worthwhile but I also like older handguns anyway. Not every dealer will accept C&R licenses and in those cases I simply move one. While it's true that when it comes to C&R firearms they really aren't making anymore it's also a fact the when they were making them they made lots of them.

    A Colt Model 1903 32acp that was made in 1906 and is still as accurate and reliable as it was over a century ago. It is also quite often my primary carry.

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    I was thinking about this recently. The ATF web site makes it sound like you have to be a museum to qualify. It also says they can show up and inspect your facility. Nope, I'm not signing up for that.

    Somebody tell me I'm wrong, please, but I'll need to see it in black and white.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHorse View Post
    I was thinking about this recently. The ATF web site makes it sound like you have to be a museum to qualify. It also says they can show up and inspect your facility. Nope, I'm not signing up for that.

    Somebody tell me I'm wrong, please, but I'll need to see it in black and white.
    That's the reason I never did it, because technically they can show up and inspect your guns and who knows what else. No thanks.
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    BTW Sig_230, you've got a good example of one of my long time goals. The 1903 is just such a classic JMB design.
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    I had a C&R license for many years. They are a great way to bankrupt yourself.
    I still, after all these years, have some rifles still covered in cosmoline.
    I'd buy a gun then buy 4 cases of ammo for each gun. One of the reasons I have about 40,000 rds of ammo.
    A lot of people back then would buy maybe 5 of the same rifles, keep the best and sell the rest. A sort of a grey area.
    It was great fun back when I had money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sig_230 View Post
    I have a C&R and find it very worthwhile but I also like older handguns anyway. Not every dealer will accept C&R licenses and in those cases I simply move one. While it's true that when it comes to C&R firearms they really aren't making anymore it's also a fact the when they were making them they made lots of them.

    A Colt Model 1903 32acp that was made in 1906 and is still as accurate and reliable as it was over a century ago. It is also quite often my primary carry.
    Beautiful example! My 1903 was made in 1930. Yours, however, is in far better condition.
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    Curios and Relics License

    I started with the C&R ad liked having it. Did not like the fact that I was so restricted in what I could buy and then sell, so obtained the regular FFL type 1 license which is much more complicated and expensive. I was retired, now I am in business from home. Still getting used to it. I have been inspected by the ATF and I passed the inspection. We’ve all heard horror stories about how bad they make things, that has not been my experience. You just obey the laws and go by their rules. I have to caution though, this can be expensive and time consuming. Not recommended for a hobbyist.

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