Same ammo my dad used in his issue 1911 as a Guerrilla on Leyte during WW II ...and the same ammo he used in that same weapon during the Korean War, and again in Vietnam in 1966.........standard issue ball ammo. It's been a proven knock down and kill round since before just about anyone on his forum was born....why mess with success ? Self-defense shooting occurs within 15-20 feet max, and often within the walls of your home - why spend $$ for "designer ammo" (as I like to refer to it.....).......
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Always found it interesting that politicians and and enough citizens to make them jump would cry about "humane" in regards to the act of shooting someone. There are places in the US you can go where you aren't allowed to have hollow point ammo because it's known to do more internal damage by expanding to a larger diameter upon entry of flesh, and consequently create more drag that makes it less likely to come flying out the other end which also allows for all that energy to be retained. There's a reason that design has been around for as long as it has and almost every state and federal LE has adopted them. They are far from "designer" at this point, although there is still plenty of designer out there. I can't argue the merits of good old fashion ball though. It will certainly do the trick as hundreds of thousands can attest to, and it's by far and away the most reliable when it comes to cycling. Don't be so quick to dismiss science though, as it has done some miraculous things like turning the Model T into a Bugatti, a bi-plane into a F-22, and a steam locomotive into a bullet train.
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i`m hopelessly old fashioned , i prefer 230gr. hardball . thinking reliability over expansion everytime ------------barring that 230gr. winchester `ranger ` +p
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To be "cliche" .45 ACP hardball may not expand, but it never shrinks...
1) As olfarhors said, they (potentially) make a bigger wound channel
2) They reduce the risk of over penetrating and hitting someone you didn't intend to hit
Regardless of caliber, the main thing is find an ammo that functions reliably in Your firearm, is accurate (poa/poi) AND is readily available so you can (almost*) always get it when you need it...
*I say almost because when people panic buy (such as they are now) you may be lucky to find ANY ammo if/when you need it.
1911 I use any 230 grain Hollow Point no matter whom packed, shipped, or Made by. 1911 2 World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada in service from 1911 to 1989 never out of service with Spec. Forces. Ball rounds work well apparently, 78 years of service can not go wrong 1911 and ball rounds will stop em Hollow Points stop em better hahahahahhahahaha
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