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    I prefer only one kind of gun for EDC...

    One with a manual external safety that ALSO permits the slide to be operated while the safety is ON

    My 9mm Shield and my SIG P238 both operate that way. I like being able to chamber a round or unload the gun (which I do occasionally at home at the cleaning bench) with the safety on

    Of course, keeping finger off the trigger is job one when doing so (loading-unloading) with any gun... But I like having the safety on too

    Anyone else have a carry gun that operates that way? Some of my other non-carry guns do as well... But many do not
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    While I am a manual safety preferred kind of guy, I can't say that I ever tried racking the slide with the safety on as a regular way of clearing the gun. There is one that wouldn't rack until I switched the safety off, but I don't recall which one it is.
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    I carry a Shield 40 the biggest part of the time, and the safety feature is pretty neat. I also carry a Glock 19 some of the time, and the absence of a manual safety is pretty cool too.
    I think it’s my PT145 that can’t be racked with the safety on.
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    I never really tried to rack any of my guns with the safety on.
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    I have the PT908 with the safety on. I never have had a problem of having a safety on a pistol. I just practice on safe-off safe (with an unloaded gun, empty chamber, and no ammo in the same room) until it becomes second nature. Do that a few hundred times, or how many times it takes to make it second nature, and you should be okay.

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    Nope.

    I'm usually a great adherent to the KISS Principle but I think this is getting carried away.

    If you are going to rely on a particular firearm as the too of choice to defend the lives of yourself and your loved ones, then you better know the gun intimately. If you can 'forget' which gun you are using, then you aren't familiar enough with the gun. If you have to think about where the safeties are instead of your thumb just 'knowing', then it sounds to me like you need some more range time with the gun.

    My 3 carry guns that see the most use (based on what I can hide) are a DAO revolver, a SA semi auto and a DA/SA semi auto. I've never had an issue transitioning between them. They don't feel the same in the hand and I've shot them for long enough that I know what to do with each. Never hunted a safety on my Rossi 720 just like I've never forgotten to thumb the one on the Para P.13 off when I'm ready to fire.
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    Each to his own, but I've never felt the need. My original EDC, a 1911, did not have that feature. I do like n external safety on a micro pistol, though, like on my Shield.

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    I completely agree about preferring - demanding - a manual thumb safety. I won't carry semis that have nothing but "automatic" safeties, like Glocks or the XD series. But I don't insist that the slide be able to move while the safety is engaged. As Fredward said, that would rule out the single greatest combat handgun of all time, the 1911. And I carry a 1911 regularly.

    My Kimber micro 9 works as the OP describes. It has a thumb safety, but you can rack the slide while the safety is engaged. I like that, it's a nice feature, but I don't reject guns for not being able to do that. It's just not that important to me.
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    I can go with or without a safety. I just came up with a safety on all of my pistols back in the 1980s and early 1990s. There are a few Tauri and Rugers, that have no safeties.

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    I have no favor either way. My most carried guns are DA, Striker fired or DA/SA with decocker. I will occasionally carry a 1911 with thumb safety.

    I never carry my Tauri anymore but they are kept loaded in condition 1 in their "hidey holes".

    How did all you thumb safety adamant folks get by back in the DA revolver days?
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