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    I just hope someone on the Jury understands Jury nullification, You are not required to convict somebody based on the letter of the law if You believe they acted justifiably.
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    So if the constitution has nothing about taking away criminal's rights, do criminals in prison have the right to free assembly? Losing rights is part and parcel of committing crime. Don't want to lose them? Don't commit crime.

    This guy had every right to defend his son. No question. But his past choices ruled out some means that the rest of us have available to them. It's pretty hard to abduct a child when a baseball bat is rearranging your cervical vertebrae.

    Having said all that, one of the biggest problems with our legal system today is how many silly, petty crimes are felonies. That needs to be fixed. But not by unrealistic policies like pretending serving time erases history or restructures one's judgment and predilections for the better.

    And his gun had the serial numbers filed off. Back to jail, buckaroo.
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    Therein lies the rub. NFA, I don't think it should exist. I have a shotgun with no serial numbers, and it's "legal". I'll thnak the crown someday. How much government intrusion are we to tolerate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MoKen View Post
    Therein lies the rub. NFA, I don't think it should exist. I have a shotgun with no serial numbers, and it's "legal". I'll thnak the crown someday. How much government intrusion are we to tolerate?
    I completely agree that the NFA should not exist. But in regards to your shotgun not having a serial number, that was most likely due to never having one. The one the felon had in the OP had a serial number that was defaced and/or obliterated intentionally. I have an AR with no serial number and it's 100% legal. The law doesn't say having no serial number makes it illegal, it says the alteration, destruction or removal of a serial number is illegal.
    Also, destroyed serial numbers can be recovered due to changes in the metal from the serialization process.
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    Yes, I've seen some legal guns for sale that didn't have serial numbers.

    If I were interested in a .47 Magnum Longhorn revolver, and there was one legally for sale with a serial number and one legally for sale without it, I'd pick the one with the serial number every time. For the exact same reasons I'd never buy a car without a VIN, and if I built a car from scratch I'd put a VIN on it.

    Your last question is the crux of the matter. You either live in anarchy, by the law of the jungle, or you deal with some government intrusion. We need and should tolerate a lot less than we have now - magazine limits in some states, background check ideas that are getting so silly sheriffs are saying they won't enforce them... but allowing people who've committed violent crime or serious felonies to own firearms after doing time is so silly that advocating for it hurts the cause of defending the second amendment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Peacemakr40 View Post
    I completely agree that the NFA should not exist. But in regards to your shotgun not having a serial number, that was most likely due to never having one. The one the felon had in the OP had a serial number that was defaced and/or obliterated intentionally. I have an AR with no serial number and it's 100% legal. The law doesn't say having no serial number makes it illegal, it says the alteration, destruction or removal of a serial number is illegal.
    Also, destroyed serial numbers can be recovered due to changes in the metal from the serialization process.
    And to think prior to 1968 S/N weren't required. hmmmmm What has it helped? My pop was deputy sheriff when GCA 1968 happened and he saw it as ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHorse View Post
    ... but allowing people who've committed violent crime or serious felonies to own firearms after doing time is so silly that advocating for it hurts the cause of defending the second amendment.
    You might read my previous post about "none violent" offenders".
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    I believe that one a person has finished their time, they should be allowed the right to defend them selves.
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    Guess he shouldn't have committed a previous felony
    and then be dumb enough to have a gun around the house
    that mysteriously had the serial numbers removed.
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    He was only protecting his son from being taken away by the kidnappers.
    So i see no reason facing the Felony

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