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    Thumbs down Fudd rules at the range.

    I've neglected to renew my range permit and have even considered keeping it that way thanks to increasingly restrictive rules being instituted at the range I was visiting which are consistent among all ranges throughout the state.

    I'm not going to go over the complete list because it's a long one, so I'm just going to cover those which I feel are the most needlessly restrictive...

    Note: These are paraphrased.
    • Handgun magazines must be loaded to a capacity no greater than 6 rounds.
      Uh...Why? It's perfectly legal in my state to own and carry standard capacity double-stack magazines, so why must I be restricted to only 6 rounds loaded per magazine at the range?
    • Rifle magazines must be loaded to a capacity no greater than 3 rounds.
      Again, why? This is hunting, it's a shooting range.
    • Use of shotshells and other multi-projectile ammunition is prohibited.
      This might make sense if this was either an indoor range or otherwise an outdoor range with high risk of ricochet occurring, but it's an outdoor range in a wooded area with sand mounds and hills serving as backstops.


    Honestly, I don't know what Fudd came up with these rules, but they've sapped all of the fun out of going out to the range and have severely gimped the amount of training one can get from going to the range. I can't be sure if my magazines are 100% reliable when fully loaded because I can only put 6 measly rounds into a pistol and 3 into a rifle, and I can't pattern my shotguns/ammo because I'm not allowed to shoot anything but slugs out of them. So what's the point of going anymore?

    As previously stated, there are many other rules as well that I haven't listed including some extremely dumb ones regarding how many shots one is allowed to fire at a time from various types of firearms.
    Plus permits cost $30 for 11 months, yes 11 months, not 12, but 11 for some reason, figure that out. They also want your SSN on the application now for some reason, along with a lot of other information which seems highly irrelevant and unnecessary, especially considering that they don't even care if you make a typo on the application. Yeah, my brother actually discovered a typo on his application last year and called it in worried that it might cause a problem, but they said it was fine.

    Perhaps the best part is that there's never anybody around to enforce these rules and they're obviously been ignored as evidenced by the amount of spent shotshells lying around or placed inside storage bins. However, disobeying rules goes against my ideals, no matter how stupid they may be, and knowing my luck, if I were to disobey the rules then that would be the one day that someone would actually be around to enforce the rules, standing just out of sight somewhere.

    So yeah, I've been debating renewing it because obviously I would like to take my new Winter carry gun out to the range to test it out, train with it, and enjoy it, but it almost seems like a waste of time/money to do so given all the restrictions.
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    This may be why I didn’t sign up for any range memberships. I have ready access to a public outdoor range a public indoor range. And no Mag/loadout restrictions.
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    I have complained about the same exact thing. I have not applied for a new permit.

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    Have you asked them why? There may be some logic they have for the rules. Logical to them. But IMO, giving up my SSN to shoot at a range? Probably not. No matter what their reasoning.
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    Sounds like there's room for some competition to open a new range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotSo View Post
    Have you asked them why? There may be some logic they have for the rules. Logical to them. But IMO, giving up my SSN to shoot at a range? Probably not. No matter what their reasoning.
    Like I said, they never even have anyone around to enforce the rules, much less explain the basis of their creation. Besides, it's probably just a pointless attempt to idiot-proof the range to avoid a potential lawsuit for failing to inform shooters not to point their firearms at their own feet then pull the trigger.
    That or whoever wrote the rules is a Fudd and I'd be really annoyed if they answered with some Fudd explanation about how; "If y'all can't git er dun with 6 shots then y'all can't git er dun with no fiddy rounds outta yer new-fangled tupperware assault weppinz!"
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    Those are some crazy rules. I'd sure support the other person when they decide to compete for their business.
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    I would tell them to kiss off that you will never renew and tell them exactly why. It's bad enough we have every liberal on the planet trying to end our second amendment, you don't need alleged "supporters" of 2A actively working against it with YOUR money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texastaurusguy View Post
    Those are some crazy rules. I'd sure support the other person when they decide to compete for their business.
    Pretty sure there would be a large base of users who would move to another range also. Need to get a hold of their membership list.
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    Here's a stretch....

    Their range is insured through a company in New York, California, Illinois where these are the common
    gun restrictions?

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