What would be your choice and why?

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  • Ruger stainless SR1911 Koenig Gov. Model .45acp

    17 56.67%
  • Kimber stainless target long slide Gov model. 45acp

    8 26.67%
  • Wilson custom Beretta Centurion 9mm

    5 16.67%
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    Question What would be your choice and why?

    I am in the market for another handgun, I have narrowed it down to 3 different guns, and I would like to know which you would buy and why you would buy it. Which ever of the three that I end up buying will be used as a range gun to punch a little paper and do a little plinking now and then. Any actual experience that anyone has with any of these three guns as well as reviews or other things you may have heard is especially appreciated.

    The three guns I am considering are...

    Ruger stainless SR1911 Koenig government model in .45acp
    Kimber stainless target 1911 long slide in .45acp.
    Wilson custom Beretta Centurian in 9mm.

    Which one would you choose and why would you choose it?

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    Wilson custom Beretta Centurian in 9mm DAO that has been converted to a frame safety and we have our winner.
    Other wise the Kimber.

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    I have handled a Wilson Centurion, and it is one of the best 92 variants. But the trigger while better than most 92's is not as good as a 1911. The longslide Kimber is an unknown to me, but the Koenig Ruger 1911 is excellent pistol. I don;t own one, but did get to handle a few Koenig Rugers and they are sweet 1911's. Oh and I am jealous you get to choose from such a premium list, you lucky guy!
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    I would choose Ruger because they have some of the best customer service in the industry and their firearms tend to be both rugged and reliable.

    Unfortunately, my employment history in sales and customer service has left me somewhat jaded, as has personal experience having gotten burned after paying a premium for quality, so I tend to gravitate towards companies who offer products of good quality but offer outstanding customer service over those which supposedly offer top notch products, but Heaven help you if you get a bad egg because the company has no experience with customer service and has an extremely arrogant staff who is so proud of their products that should anything go wrong they are going to give you the third degree, because surely the issue must be your fault because their products absolutely cannot fail, their tooling doesn't wear out, their smiths don't make mistakes, they don't get distracted, won't have off days, and their factory apparently exists in some parallel universe where nothing ever goes wrong either.

    Admittedly, I've never dealt with Kimber nor Wilson Combat, nor have I ever heard anything negative about their customer service, but I'd just feel safer with Ruger.
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    I voted Ruger, because - Ruger. Their intent is to make it right, every time, and if they don't . . . they'll make it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuco_Ramírez View Post
    I would choose Ruger because they have some of the best customer service in the industry and their firearms tend to be both rugged and reliable.

    Unfortunately, my employment history in sales and customer service has left me somewhat jaded, as has personal experience having gotten burned after paying a premium for quality, so I tend to gravitate towards companies who offer products of good quality but offer outstanding customer service over those which supposedly offer top notch products, but Heaven help you if you get a bad egg because the company has no experience with customer service and has an extremely arrogant staff who is so proud of their products that should anything go wrong they are going to give you the third degree, because surely the issue must be your fault because their products absolutely cannot fail, their tooling doesn't wear out, their smiths don't make mistakes, they don't get distracted, won't have off days, and their factory apparently exists in some parallel universe where nothing ever goes wrong either.

    Admittedly, I've never dealt with Kimber nor Wilson Combat, nor have I ever heard anything negative about their customer service, but I'd just feel safer with Ruger.
    You just reminded me of the story of the Brit who broke the front axle on his Rolls Royce, in Italy. He notified RR and flew home .Then later, his brother drove the Rolls home for him and after three months and no bill for the axle, he contacted the factory and inquired for his bill. He was told, "Sir, I'm sure there must be some mistake. Nothing ever breaks on a Rolls Royce."
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    I had to vote the Ruger SR1911 myself.
    Kimber seems, at least to me, to be full of themselves about their firearms. I never met one I could hate, even their revolvers.
    And the Wilson Custom 9mm, to me, is just another 9mm. To me, it is like putting a fresh Maaco paint job on a taxi and passing it off as a limousine.
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    I go Ruger. I already have their LW Commander and very happy with it. I may add a Ruger SR 1911 in 10mm one day.

    No way would I touch a Wilson custom Beretta - a whole lot of expense for a gun that likely wouldn’t outshoot a Ruger or Kimber.
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    I vote Ruger. I’m something of a fan. Of the ones I’ve owned, they’ve been flawless and accurate. I guess it’s the reputation that sells me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash60601 View Post
    You just reminded me of the story of the Brit who broke the front axle on his Rolls Royce, in Italy. He notified RR and flew home .Then later, his brother drove the Rolls home for him and after three months and no bill for the axle, he contacted the factory and inquired for his bill. He was told, "Sir, I'm sure there must be some mistake. Nothing ever breaks on a Rolls Royce."
    Yep. Sadly, most luxury brands are like that, which is hilarious considering that many luxury brands aren't exactly renowned for their outstanding longevity/build quality. In fact, in most cases, (particularly in the electronic and automotive industry) luxury products tend to be textbook examples of planned obsolescence, intentionally engineered to favor replacement over maintenance or repair, yet still the customer service representatives of said companies tend to be adamant about their products being nigh indestructible and therefore if something has broken then it must have been due to careless mishandling or outright neglect on the user's part.

    The only thing worse than having to deal with said luxury brand customer service representatives as a consumer is having to deal with them as a customer service representative for a business who supplies their products on behalf of dissatisfied customers, in which case all plausible deniability flies straight out the window once you receive mass reports of such issues from multiple customers, yet still they hold fast. So then you have no choice but to move it up the chain on your end, only to have some executive/manager scold you for actually doing your job and expecting them to do theirs, because apparently the corporation as a whole would rather just continue to exchange faulty products indefinitely at the cost of customer satisfaction than risk upsetting the luxury brand executives by reporting an issue with their products, eventhough it might be an issue with a particular production run which the luxury brand might actually appreciate being made aware of.
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