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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishinkeylargo View Post
    4 Buck 2 3/4" Federal Premium Personal Defense Shotshell with Flight Control wad.

    Loaded into Mossberg 500. I have the combo unit and it currently resides in this configuration and is easily accessible.

    ^^^ That's pretty much the exact configuration I have my Mav 88 in. I keep it in a bedside scabbard. I do have a Streamlight attached to it for unwanted late night bipedal visitors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlue View Post
    For quite some time I have been using a 9mm or .45 acp as my nightstand gun, but as in most cases a handgun is used to enable you to get to your long gun. In my case it would depend on the level of the threat so I keep a loaded AR and a 12 gauge shotgun in my unlocked safe nearby when I'm sleeping. Many people rely on a shotgun for home defense and surely a good argument can be made for its effectiveness in that circumstance. A big plus is that it's less likely to over penetrate and hit a neighbor's home. That's not a huge factor for me as my closest neighbor is about 500 yards away, but I still load my cylinder bore 12 gauge shotgun with #4 or #1 buckshot. Any in home encounter, in my case at least, is likely to be 7-10 yards or less. For those of you that choose to depend on a 12 gauge, what ammo do you load it with and why did you choose that type?
    exactly what you are using my friend!
    IF # 1 or #4 buck shot doesn't stop a human being then just drop to your knees and pray for devine intervention.
    now when I work at my volunteer Road block duty where i shoot cars, trucks and buses I go with 00 or 000 Buck.
    but for breathing things the #1 and #4 makes sense to me, plus it makes more holes that blood comes out of than 00-000 Buckshot.
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    I agree with the choice of a shotgun but mine is a 20-gauge Winchester Defender pump that has resided in the corner of our bedroom, next to the night stand for about 30 years. Right now it is loaded with RIO #1 buck (9 pellets). It works well on 4-footed nighttime critters as well.

    I wonder how many people have actually fired a 12-gauge inside a home? I did a long time ago inside a mock-up that a friend had created. Without hearing protection my ears rang for about 3 days and 3 foot of flame came out of the barrel. That'll hurt your night vision. It wasn't a pleasant experience and was never repeated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassrh View Post
    I keep a shorty loaded with #4 Buck beside the bed and in the shop. On the pattern issue, I wonder how many folks have ever patterned their shotguns - instead just assuming they all are the same ? Bet very few. When I did my 870, I was surprised at the result - VERY narrow, tall vertical pattern.
    INDEED!
    the old wives tale and assumption that you can't miss with a shotgun is just that!
    they don't spread at closer range near as much as TV says!--LOL
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    I keep #4 ,# 3 loaded up and ready to go in my 12 and 20 gauge defense shotguns here at home, mainly due to a couple other homes being close to mine. Both shotguns also have some #1 or # 2 ready to go as backup.

    When i head out to camp , where the closest house is 1/2 a mile or more it's buck or #1 on tap , with slugs available on the shotguns(have seen bears tracks there before). Also when i go out to camp, i add a sling which gives me about 20+ rounds as backup.
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    I went with 2 3/4 because it meant 1 more round in the tube than 3 inch. The 3 inch also has an higher recoil, so that translates into slower recovery and follow up shots. Since I'm using a semi auto instead of a pump, all I'm waiting on is for the front sight to call back onto target.

    Number 1 Buck is .30". Winchester and Remington's versions are 16 lead balls- all of which my 1100 can keep in the black of a Hoppe's 100 yard rifle target at the max indoor range I will face with the Cylinder bore choke tube in place. The Federal #1 Buck is 20 plated .30" round ball and the pattern is only slightly larger but has 25% more projectiles. If I can find it, I buy 3 boxes of it.
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    I also live in the country, but my over-penetration concern is my own house - drywall. I have a Stoeger Coach Gun. Cylindar and Improved, left and right respenctively. #4 Left, 2 aught Right. That should get me to my AR or .45.
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    I have 12 gauge and it's loaded with 00 buck. I know it will work, yes over penetration may be an issue.... but it's what I have here and can find without ordering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan View Post
    I have 12 gauge and it's loaded with 00 buck. I know it will work, yes over penetration may be an issue.... but it's what I have here and can find without ordering.
    I hit the local sporting goods stores around the beginning of deer season. One of them will always have some #1Buck, the only question is which manufacturer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ETF View Post
    I agree with the choice of a shotgun but mine is a 20-gauge Winchester Defender pump that has resided in the corner of our bedroom, next to the night stand for about 30 years. Right now it is loaded with RIO #1 buck (9 pellets). It works well on 4-footed nighttime critters as well.

    I wonder how many people have actually fired a 12-gauge inside a home? I did a long time ago inside a mock-up that a friend had created. Without hearing protection my ears rang for about 3 days and 3 foot of flame came out of the barrel. That'll hurt your night vision. It wasn't a pleasant experience and was never repeated.
    Just imagine what it would be like from the other end of the barrel.
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