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    Semi -Wadcutters as a SD round

    I just picked up an old 6" S&W model 29, and will be trying out various cartridges in magnum and special.

    At Cabela's today I picked up a box of .44 Special HSM 240gr Lead Semi-Wadcutters, among others, and was wondering how it might rate as a SD round?

    Muzzle Energy: 381 foot pounds

    Muzzle Velocity: 845 fps

    Well below .44 magnum range, haha.

    I've read good reports of Wad-cutters as a SD round...this is a *semi*-wadcutter, of course. The energy/velocity numbers above don't seem any better than a mid-range 45 acp (don't currently have a .45 ACP gun), but thought there might be other considerations.

    Even though I'm not looking at this model 29 as a SD gun, I'd still like to know solid options in both Magnum & Special.

    Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

    (BTW, also picked up some Magnum rounds - Hornady 240gr XTP hollow points, Barnes Vor-TX 225gr hollow points, and the low powered Winchester 240gr. jacketed soft points)
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    Federal makes an all lead SWC-HP in .44 Special. Matter of fact, I think it's the only .44 Special load they still make. I use it as the carry load for my Rossi 720.
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    I've heard of people using wadcutters and semi-wadcutters as self defense ammo, and if that's what makes somebody feel secure, then to each his own. But, we live in the age of scientific breakthroughs in hollowpoint design and I would almost always prefer a good hollowpoint travelling at the speed you mentioned above for the semi-wadcutter. Now, if you're talking about shooting a boar or a deer or even a bear, well it's time to consider something that doesn't necessarily expand, is made of cast lead, in other words very dense and able to penetrate deep without losing it's shape. Certain wadcutters would fill that bill nicely.
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    Thanks, all.

    The HSM SWC's I got today seemed like they would be a good option for practice/pleasure shooting, as they are $29.99 for a box of 50. Figured it would be icing on the cake if it also made for a good SD round, as well.

    Good to know the pros and cons based on different scenarios.

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    In a M29, I'd carry a Keith style SWC over 17 grains of 2400 in .44 Special every day of the week and twice on Sunday and have not a qualm about it. Those big, deep holes let lots of air in and lots of blood out!
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    I've never killed another human being in a defensive situation and hope I never have to, but the lessons I've learned through many years of hunting tells me that a wide flat nosed(large metplat area) bullet with deep penetration will drop animals quick. Let's face it, people are animals too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valjean View Post
    I just picked up an old 6" S&W model 29, and will be trying out various cartridges in magnum and special.

    At Cabela's today I picked up a box of .44 Special HSM 240gr Lead Semi-Wadcutters, among others, and was wondering how it might rate as a SD round?

    Muzzle Energy: 381 foot pounds

    Muzzle Velocity: 845 fps

    Well below .44 magnum range, haha.

    I've read good reports of Wad-cutters as a SD round...this is a *semi*-wadcutter, of course. The energy/velocity numbers above don't seem any better than a mid-range 45 acp (don't currently have a .45 ACP gun), but thought there might be other considerations.

    Even though I'm not looking at this model 29 as a SD gun, I'd still like to know solid options in both Magnum & Special.

    Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

    (BTW, also picked up some Magnum rounds - Hornady 240gr XTP hollow points, Barnes Vor-TX 225gr hollow points, and the low powered Winchester 240gr. jacketed soft points)
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    I'd expect that to be a darn good self defense round. I pass up hollowpoints and choose rounds like that when I'm not sure which is more likely, two legged predators or four. Lots of mass for good penetration, and WC/SWC leave a heck of a wound cavity as BigBlue said.
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    I'd feel comfortable with it. As you said, it's similar ballistics to .45 ACP hardball and I don't think many would argue the .45 ACP standard load is inadequate. Plus the SWC has a better profile than the round nose .45.

    Let's not forget that for a very long time cartridges that started with a "4" and loaded to standard velocities were not found wanting. You might try some of these. I've used their similar .41 Magnum rounds and they were great.

    "NEW" .44 Rem Mag 240gr Lead Semi-Wadcutter - Georgia Arms
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