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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenWolf70 View Post
    I thought Chicago had all their gun store and firing range laws struck down because they served to drive gun shops and ranges out of business and were therefore considered to be interfering with the exercise of one's Second Amendment rights. Guess the state NRA will need to go to court over this. In Alabama voting for such BS laws are liable to get you lynched, if not kicked out of office.
    To my knowledge there is not one shop or range in the city limits, although I recall hearing of one trying to open a business there.
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    I know the city of Chicago laws were struck down at the same time that the Heller case was decided by SCOTUS. Washington DC had the same laws invalidated. Intentionally causing businesses to fail, is grounds for a civil lawsuit against a state, especially when the goal of those laws is to prevent one from exercising their rights as American citizens.
    Battle of Wanat: 10 years ago last 13 July, 1LT Brostram was killed in combat killing the last enemy combatant in the outpost. The LT went to the point of decision and made the difference that turned the tide of the battle. The original investigation found the Bde Cmdr, the Bn Cmdr and the Co Cmdr at fault for dereliction of duty. If you want to see what a sarcastic silver star citation reads like, pull up the company commander's silver star.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenWolf70 View Post
    I know the city of Chicago laws were struck down at the same time that the Heller case was decided by SCOTUS. Washington DC had the same laws invalidated. Intentionally causing businesses to fail, is grounds for a civil lawsuit against a state, especially when the goal of those laws is to prevent one from exercising their rights as American citizens.
    As right as that is it will still cost someone a ton of money to battle it in court. Or it stays law if no one has the funds to battle it. So it becomes a small victory or a large victory for the grabbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenWolf70 View Post
    I know the city of Chicago laws were struck down at the same time that the Heller case was decided by SCOTUS. Washington DC had the same laws invalidated. Intentionally causing businesses to fail, is grounds for a civil lawsuit against a state, especially when the goal of those laws is to prevent one from exercising their rights as American citizens.
    Good point...the numbers are high enough to interest a class action attorney IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenWolf70 View Post
    I thought Chicago had all their gun store and firing range laws struck down because they served to drive gun shops and ranges out of business and were therefore considered to be interfering with the exercise of one's Second Amendment rights. Guess the state NRA will need to go to court over this. In Alabama voting for such BS laws are liable to get you lynched, if not kicked out of office.
    For a politician, even speaking of such things as a joke in Alabama will ensure that you couldn't run unopposed as dogcatcher in a dogless town and get elected.
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    They're closing in -- one piece at a time. The federal laws won't take down our 2A rights -- the states will do it.

    Interesting that most often everyone bows down to the great Federal government for all their wants and needs and the states stand by like innocent bystanders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czechbikr View Post
    Good point...the numbers are high enough to interest a class action attorney IMO.
    Yes, a class action could call for penalties, in addition to current and past losses and loss of future profits, and even a stay on any future such laws without Federal oversight, i.e., must go before a judge for ratification.
    Battle of Wanat: 10 years ago last 13 July, 1LT Brostram was killed in combat killing the last enemy combatant in the outpost. The LT went to the point of decision and made the difference that turned the tide of the battle. The original investigation found the Bde Cmdr, the Bn Cmdr and the Co Cmdr at fault for dereliction of duty. If you want to see what a sarcastic silver star citation reads like, pull up the company commander's silver star.

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    Isn't that the point, to drive them out of business?
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    Quote Originally Posted by texastaurusguy View Post
    Isn't that the point, to drive them out of business?
    Yup. Bury them in bureaucratic paperwork and red tape, add extra fees (like state licensing fees that must be renewed periodically), require expensive equipment (like video and audio equipment to record transactions),... all to make staying in business too much of a hassle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtg452 View Post
    Yup. Bury them in bureaucratic paperwork and red tape, add extra fees (like state licensing fees that must be renewed periodically), require expensive equipment (like video and audio equipment to record transactions),... all to make staying in business too much of a hassle.

    Following Alinsky
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