.40 S&W vs .45 ACP - Which is a better all-purpose SD cartridge? - Page 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollin thunder View Post
    I know it's a bit morbid, but the guy who shot the people at that public works dept. killed just about everyone he shot. He used a .45 ACP
    Yeah a bit morbid, but where they got hit and how many times they were shot, most likely mattered more than the caliber, but with out this info we will never know. Also how long before they got EMT'S to them.
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    I'd choose the .45 because I'm more familiar with it and I'm a 1911 junkie. I know the .40 S&W is a fine round but I've never shot one. I prefer larger calibers overall, a bigger hole lets more blood out and more air in.

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    Either would be fine, however, I gave the nod to the 40 thinking if you got a Glock 23 357sig and 9mm conversion barrels can provide some versatility.
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    I chose 40 because I got one but like both (shot a 1911 in 45). I say flip a coin on it if you don't have a preference?
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    .45 has been putting things down for a long time..........................
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    I've got autos in all 3 calibers you mention. I prefer. 45 acp. It just shoots better for me. Plus...I like that big a$$ boolet.
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    I've always been preferential to the 45 acp for just about everything - self defense, home defense, target practice, everything. I don't even own a 40 cal but I think I'm going to buy a full sized one here soon just so I can play around with it and maybe even start reloading for it. I always thought it was kinda odd that there was no +P designation for the caliber, but I guess the +P would be the 10mm. I've never been able to get away from the 45 caliber thing, you look at that muzzle end of the barrel and I can imagine it looks like you could park a truck up there, when you're staring down it from so close.

    Inheriting my dad's Sig P226 has given me a new appreciation for the 9mm as well. I think with the right loads, you're very well armed with that caliber. I could see getting more 9mm guns sometime soon.

    I've taken my 45acp 1911 Officer model to the front door when the doorbell rang at 1:00am, and I've also found myself reaching for my model 66 once or twice as well. I think a 40 cal would be about the same.
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    I do not have any .40's and have 9mm or .45's. I use to do gunsmithing work. .40 has been squeezed into 9mm framed pistols and it beats them to death. Most of the designs including the Glock have accelerated wear over 9mm, and guns in .45 are in designs scaled for it.

    For SD, a reliable platform is the foundation, and cartridge is second. 1911, OSS, 625-8, and Witness are all scaled around a large frame for .45 ACP. Why do you think Law Enforcement dumping the .40? wear and cost are prime factors.

    You can debate cartridges all you want, but since the introduction of the .40 S&W into 9mm frames, wear and tear has been a noticeable factor.

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    Wow, lots of great information all around to take in here.

    @jonrjen
    That's actually a really good point. A .40 S&W pistol can be easily converted to 9mm Luger or .357 SIG at minimal cost, essentially making it like buying multiple firearms at once, and that's a value that I can really appreciate, so in a single post you've strongly swayed me in the direction of .40 S&W over .45 ACP.
    Rest assured, whatever I ultimately choose, you'll hear about it as soon as I get my new gun, which will most likely be sometime are Christmas since that's when all the sales will be.

    @maloy
    It is to my understanding that the S&W M&P series was designed with the .40 S&W cartridge in-mind since it's their cartridge, which was at the time of the pistol's design, the leading duty cartridge of Law Enforcement agencies across the United States, so the M&P40 was built specifically for the .40 S&W and the M&P9 actually has the same slide and frame as the M&P40, it's just the barrel and springs that are different. (Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about that.)
    Also, I'm not really too concerned about wearing out the pistol since it's highly unlikely that I'll ever shoot it enough to do so, and even if I do, the M&P series is backed by S&W's Lifetime Service Policy.
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    You certainly have gotten a lot of interesting replies.

    The information and personal experiences are varied and cover a lot of very excellent points. And it comes down, I think, to just exactly what you, as the individual buying it, really want and find comfortable.

    I have owned and shot extensively both calibers and (though I gave my last 40 to my son for his EDC) for the conditions you specify, I would opt for the 40. Felt (or more particularly, "perceived") recoil, ability to shoot it well, and the ease of carrying it would certainly be factors. Weight of a daily carry was significant to me for some while, and still is. Magazine capacity while at the same time maintaining a form factor that is conducive to concealed - or even open - carry is important to me. The size/weight/shape of the firearm has a significant bearing on ease of carry, draw, and presentation of the gun - and that is important to me too.

    I haven't gotten into the caliber conversions, but that presents an appealing proposition. To have the ability to use alternate calibers that may be available when the primary choice is not may well become an important factor - -in a gun you are familiar and competent and well-practiced with.

    You certainly cannot go wrong with a Smith & Wesson. There are many good guns on the market, and the months between now and the purchase date might well be spent trying the various choices at rental-ranges and with some shooting friends who have the pistols of your interest.
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