Hide your .45s boys, looks like the antis have set their sights on big bore pistols.

[Tuco_Ramírez]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...lets-guns.html

[230JHP]

The first thing that came to mind when I read the research news was, "Well, duh. Thank you, Captain Obvious."



The anti-Constitutionalists put every aspect of guns and crime under a microscope for two reasons:

1. Another 'study' means more research funding, another grant to apply for, another paper for professional publication. It could be something that actually meant a difference to society, such as clarifying the relationship between generational dependence on public assistance and parental involvement in adolescent educational achievement, or it could be another study about some connection between guns and societal problems. Since the AMA is anti-gun ( https://www.mdmag.com/medical-news/d...olution-passes ) anti-gun research fits their agenda and garners peer approval.

2. More anti-gun research provides more talking points for anti-Constitutionalists to use when they trot out their next nuance of 'reasonable' gun control. The research protocols might be flawed, the findings suspect or even against them -- it doesn't matter. All they need is something they can spin to fit their need.

Disarmament won't be a single bold stroke, a la United Kingdom, Canada, Australia. It will be a series of nips and whittles, laws that force tough choices on gun owners, and ongoing efforts by anti-Constitutionalists to undermine public support for the 2nd Amendment.

[dwhite]

So what he's saying is that taking the "Saturday Night Specials" off the street didn't have as much bearing on reducing crime as was hoped.

Also, he's misleading in stating that big caliber handguns are a recent technology. Nope. That 45ACP has been around since the early 1900's and
in semi-automatic configuration too.

I bet it's easier to link gun crime to poorly educated people from broken homes in areas where liberal policies have driven out business, educational
quality, and family values. Can't say that though.

All the Best,
D. White

[rollin thunder]

I'm going to use this in the next caliber war thread.

[mawguy]

Well, with the anti-gun crowd, not much of what they say is worth listening to, other than the fact that they are always making a case for banning something. They are masters of death by 1,000 cuts and are satisfied with small, incremental gains over long periods. They are sure that they will eventually get all firearms out of the hands of citizens.

What would be a good indicator of the weapons/calibers that citizens SHOULD BE acquiring is whatever the bodyguards of the wealthy and powerful are carrying. The argument that citizens should not have "military style" weapons is precisely why we should have them as well.

As for the venerable 1911 pistol, it was a military pistol and was superior to the .38. I say own what you want but get proficient in using it. Hits count, misses don't.

[Yissnakk]

Cell phone use kills more people than guns each year but I don't hear anyone talking about "common sense" cell phone laws involving confiscation or background checks or any other such restrictions (oh sure it's illegal to text and drive but very difficult to effectively prevent...)

[Czechbikr]

So what he's saying is that taking the "Saturday Night Specials" off the street didn't have as much bearing on reducing crime as was hoped.

Also, he's misleading in stating that big caliber handguns are a recent technology. Nope. That 45ACP has been around since the early 1900's and
in semi-automatic configuration too.

I bet it's easier to link gun crime to poorly educated people from broken homes in areas where liberal policies have driven out business, educational
quality, and family values. Can't say that though.

All the Best,
D. White

The study and the article describing it appear to me to be a dramatic means of formulating the conclusion that they wanted and backing into the means to support it. There's more holes in their argument than my 1911 and three magazines could elicit.

[rollin thunder]

Its not the cell phone, silly. Its the kid texting. Oh, wait a minute...

[Smokewagon]

So, bigger calibers are harder to handle, thus less accuracy, smaller calibers get more hits. What? Now I'm confused. With today's technology and enhanced bullet performance, I don't see a need for caliber wars, just shot placement. And yes, larger calibers are controllable and accurate.

[Old_Sp5]

Well, at least it supports the FBI's current belief that 9MM is better, I guess.

AND, thinking a bit outside of the box a bit, where does that leave the shotgun users ?