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    Reliability, can you trust your life to your firearms!?!

    At the gun shop today I talked to a guy packing a Kimber he got a good deal on... It does not feed reliably and this man is willing to carry it for his primary concealed carry!

    EDIT: This is not blaiming Kimber... It could have been any gun and I would have posted this topic. This is to point out that unreliable is dangerous... Get it fixed or get something different is the point!

    I hope that most of you are ready and willing to defend yourselves if the poop hits the fan! Maybe you are not sure if you could take a life in defending your own or another persons life...

    One thing we should consider is the reliability of the guns we choose as our primary go-to-gun's

    I carry an old S&W 645 that I have had for 12 years... It is a 5" large frame stainless .45 ACP... It was made in about 1986 and was a Police issue. All of the specifics on the gun are interesting but NONE of it means a thing if the gun is not reliable. I have never found a gun that I trust like this one.

    I have never had a feed or mechanical failure in over 2000 rounds! I have had bad ammo but that is not the gun's fault. In fact I found that this gun will reliably chamber empty shells.

    My other go to gun is a pump 12 gauge... Nothing special just 100% reliable!

    I have other guns that are pretty and trendy but I can't trust my life with them so they are toys.

    Ask yourself this question, when life is on the line will my gun function? If you are not completely sure that answer is yes, then you need to consider finding a reliable replacement.

    I hear many people say things that lead me to believe that their carry gun has some kind of issue.... That is bad and nobody should take that kind of chance!

    So that is my thought for the day
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    Re: Reliability, can you trust your life to your firearms!?!

    Yessssssssssssssssss indeed specially my PT145, it never ever gives me a malfuncktion.
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    Re: Reliability, can you trust your life to your firearms!?!

    If his Kimber does not feed reliably, he should STOP buying CRAP ammo, it is not the fault of the gun. It's a stupid shooter problem.


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    Re: Reliability, can you trust your life to your firearms!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by SPLAT
    At the gun shop today I talked to a guy packing a Kimber he got a good deal on... It does not feed reliably and this man is willing to carry it for his primary concealed carry!
    He told you this? Yikes. I assumed all people carried guns they knew were reliable. That's what a 'break in' period is for. I also assume all people shoot lots of ammo they carry in the gun to make sure it cycles correctly.

    You may want to direct him to this forum the next time you see him!

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    Re: Reliability, can you trust your life to your firearms!?!

    Yes I do but I also carry a bug and a couple knives just in case. I know my xd and my 945 will fire iff I pull the trigger. But bad things happen to good guns.

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    Re: Reliability, can you trust your life to your firearms!?!

    All my firearms are utterly reliable. If one does not go bang every time I pull the trigger, I start woking on that particular gun then and there until I find the problem, and correct it. I wont put away (store)a malfunctioning firearm, this is very important to me. (maybe Im just messed-up, I dunno.)

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    Re: Reliability, can you trust your life to your firearms!?!

    I wouldn't own a firearm that wasn't reliable. I maintain my firearms and shoot them all fairly well. Some have limitations, range and degree of accuracy, but all function well for the desired purpose I keep them for. If I don't feel comfortable about the way they shoot (accuracy for the intended purpose) I sell them and move on to a different gun for the intended purpose. Reliability is never an issue with any gun I own. I don't expect the semi auto rifle that holds a magazine of 40 rounds to have the accuracy of the bolt action that holds 4 rounds, and unless the hoards of zombies were over the horizon, I'd opt for the bolt action that is a tack driver in most "have to" needs. In any event, they will all go bang each and every time.
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    Re: Reliability, can you trust your life to your firearms!?!

    Quote Originally Posted by SPLAT
    At the gun shop today I talked to a guy packing a Kimber he got a good deal on... It does not feed reliably and this man is willing to carry it for his primary concealed carry!

    I hope that most of you are ready and willing to defend yourselves if the poop hits the fan! Maybe you are not sure if you could take a life in defending your own or another persons life...

    One thing we should consider is the reliability of the guns we choose as our primary go-to-gun's

    I carry an old S&W 645 that I have had for 12 years... It is a 5" large frame stainless .45 ACP... It was made in about 1986 and was a Police issue. All of the specifics on the gun are interesting but NONE of it means a thing if the gun is not reliable. I have never found a gun that I trust like this one.

    I have never had a feed or mechanical failure in over 2000 rounds! I have had bad ammo but that is not the gun's fault. In fact I found that this gun will reliably chamber empty shells.

    My other go to gun is a pump 12 gauge... Nothing special just 100% reliable!

    I have other guns that are pretty and trendy but I can't trust my life with them so they are toys.

    Ask yourself this question, when life is on the line will my gun function? If you are not completely sure that answer is yes, then you need to consider finding a reliable replacement.

    I hear many people say things that lead me to believe that their carry gun has some kind of issue.... That is bad and nobody should take that kind of chance!

    So that is my thought for the day
    I'll go out on a limb here; I bet this Gun Store Commando doesn't carry a BUG either - YA THINK?

    I carry a Taurus® Mdl 617SS2 as a primary, and a Mdl 85SS2UL as a backup. These guns are 100% reliable and I trust my life to them every day. In almost 40years of carrying a gun everyday I have found that the absolute fastest way to solve a firearm malfunction is the "NY Reload".
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    Re: Reliability, can you trust your life to your firearms!?!

    I carry a S&W J-Frame 2" revolver. Always, always goes bang. My second choice would be my PT1911, never a malfunction.
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    Re: Reliability, can you trust your life to your firearms!?!

    I just bought (shudder) a used Kel-Tec P11. The original owner said he had problems with it feeding reliably. (100rnds) I took it to the range and had one failure to feed out of 100 rounds. This was with a mixture of FMJ/JHP ammo. I took it home and did a KelTec owners group described "Fluff and Buff" on it. The only thing I noticed during this was some machine marks on the feed ramp. Buffed those off, in general cleaned up the gun and took it back to the range. I have now put an additional 300 rounds of mixed ammo (both good stuff and crap) with no further FTF's. I went back to the original owner and asked him again just how many rounds he had fired thru it. This time he told me that he had only put 30 rounds thru it. Sounds to me like a break in problem on an inexpensive gun. I will put another 200 - 300 rounds thru it. If I have no other problems, it's an EDC. To put this in perspective, my PT92 had several feed failures in the first 100 rounds, my Berettas have both had FTF's in the early stages. Most people do not understand how these semi-autos work, and with one minor problem, they condemn the weapon. One early failure to feed is not really a problem. Continued failures are a problem.

 

 
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