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    There are a lot of good calibers for most large mammal hunting in the lower 48 that won't break the bank or your shoulder. Unless you are shooting from mountain top to mountain top, the .338 Lapua may be a little overkill, and a 300 Winmag will fill most scenarios even in Alaska.

    For Elk, probably more Elk have been taken with either the .270 or the 30-06, and I would today settle on a .308 for an all around bolt action and stay away from exotic calibers.

    I never plan on going Griz hunting and am quite content with a 25-06 and a .270 in my stable, although I am considering a .308.

    I think you are on the right track with the other two and would lean towards the .22 LR over the .17 HMR if I was getting a .223 /5.56 as you can do a lot with the .223/556, which has proved very adequate for most White Tail for two of my Grandsons and makes a great varmint rifle.

    My sons have taken White Tail and Mulies with the 30-30, 25-06, 270 and what I think is overkill, the 300 Winmag.

    Personally, I would stick to common calibers.

    The 10 year old grandson took this with his .223 last year at age 9

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    I'm glad to see some references to the 30-30. Every deer I've killed I killed with a 30-30. During field dressing those animals I was really impressed by the damage a 30-30 does, ripping lungs and hearts to shreds etc.
    Since moving to the remote woods I've tried to collect some guns for a end of the world situations. I've bought a .22 semi auto rifle and handgun, a Mini 14 .223. I've replaced my old Marlin 30-30 from 30 years ago with a used non Remlin (non Marlington if you will) 336 in 30-30. I've always had a couple of shotguns, a single shot .22 and assorted other handguns including a .38 SPL. .40 S&W and a .357.
    I think my collection is fairly complete, at least there is nothing else I'm looking for or want. I also think I have enough gun among them all to handle anything that might come up... at least in the Missouri Ozarks.

    I've also been heavily involved in stock piling ammo.
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    I would go with .22 for small game. .223/5.56 will take down any medium to large game with the right ammo. Check out DRT ammo. Incredible round. And domething in 30 caliber range. That is all you need.
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    I like the 22 for small game, for deer and larger I like the 270/308/3030/or 30.06. Bear especially something like griz well bigger is better I think, although the 30.06 would do. But if big is what you are looking for maybe the 338 weatherby, it's a awesome round. I do like the addition of the 12 gauge with the addition of a slug barrel. And LoneStarJake is pretty much spot on.
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    The Weatherby Vanguard .30-06 I had did just about everything. I shot 110HP for prairie dogs, 165 for deer and elk, and 220 RN for moose. It was one of the few rifles I've had that would shoot that variety of bullets and shoot them all well. If you are going bear hunting the .30-06 is good for black bear, a .45-70 is the minimum I'd use for browns.
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    I am looking real hard at the .338-06, but everything I have killed has been with a .300 sav or .22lr. Mostly i am looking at it because I have another Mauser action and I already rebarreled one to .308 and have a .270 barrel I have yet to install on another.
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    Lots of good suggestions in these posts. I support the 'keep it simple' and minimum costs, while still getting the job done.

    My suggestions...
    1. 22lr--cheap and easy to use for small game
    2. .308/30-30/30-06-- All pretty easy on the budget and good middle range/sized game getter
    3. 44 mag for combo rifle and handgun effective at shorter ranges

    If you need to go larger a .338 win mag, or .375 H&H.. but the ammo is expensive and not common in some areas.
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    I'll throw in with those who suggested you look into a 30-30 or 30.06. In my opinion those are the best all around hunting rounds. I like the 30-30 the best, its a light load (in my opinion) that packs a solid punch and is capable of taking down every major game animal in North America. (not legally in all jurisdictions but thats not the same thing). I like the 30.06 for longer 200 yard + ranges, which for me is just about never.
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    For small game up to Coyote size, the .22 Magnum would be my choice, having more range than the .22LR.

    For an EBR, either the 5.56mm or 7.62x39mm carbine will serve you well. I have both.

    My medium to large game choice would be the .30/06 and I have three Rifles, so chambered. The .30/06 will handle the heavier 180 grain Bullets with a bit more velocity, than the .308, but it will consume a bit more powder with the lighter bullets. Of course, this will depend upon how you load it. According to the late Col. Jeff Cooper, the .30/06 with a 180 grain Bullet will kill anything roaming this continent and perhaps some others out side of it. The largest game I have killed with it has been a Bull Elk. I have NOT tried this combination on a large Bear, as yet, lacking the opportunity to have done so.

    The other favorite Cartridge in my "collection" would be the 7x57mm Mauser, but with it's popularity waning in the USA, it's primarily a Reloaders Cartridge these days, and while it will work nicely on small to medium size Bears with a 175 grain Bullet, I would be loathe to recommend it for the larger Bruins. It's more popular in Europe, but they don't have many larger Bears there.

    Best of Luck, whatever you choose.
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    Thanks again for all the opinions and suggestions.

    Yes, as someone pointed out, these weapons will also be handy in a SHTF scenario. In that kind of event it would probably be best to have a variety and not be too picky. But I know where I should start.
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