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    That chart pretty much shows why .357 is my favored handgun (revolver).
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    I guess if we are really worried about stopping power we would get a revolver chambered in 45-70. Then it might not put the doped up meth head on the ground.

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    I still wouldn't stand in front of one and volunteer to be shot.
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    Compare the .380 to the 38 special. Pretty close. Pocket carry of a Ruger LCP II every day is easier to conceal than a Taurus 85 and has 2 more rounds.
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    The Hatcher Theory of Relative Stopping Power is exactly that. A Theory. It is unproven. A lot of people feel it included Hatcher's bias towards larger caliber cartridges. He developed it using his "experience". So he designed a formula that gave him what he thought the answer should be. Many have pointed out that a fast-pitch softball would make an extremely effective defensive weapon according to his formula. His method seems to over-weight diameter.

    If you look at a more complete table you'll find values for the .380 that come pretty close to what your list has for the 9mm. Of course there's better values for the 9mm too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenwolde View Post
    The Hatcher Theory of Relative Stopping Power is exactly that. A Theory. It is unproven. A lot of people feel it included Hatcher's bias towards larger caliber cartridges. He developed it using his "experience". So he designed a formula that gave him what he thought the answer should be. Many have pointed out that a fast-pitch softball would make an extremely effective defensive weapon according to his formula. His method seems to over-weight diameter.

    If you look at a more complete table you'll find values for the .380 that come pretty close to what your list has for the 9mm. Of course there's better values for the 9mm too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHorse View Post
    Energy matters for projectiles about ~2500fps. At handgun velocities, it's momentum that matters.
    I agree.
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    while I agree the energy of the handgun is likely not going to drop someone in their tracks from shock, but I believe that that anything that produces shock (pain) to the body has an effect on it, that's why most people don't want to be shot with anything, generally with handgun type power you are waiting on blood loss to do its work, unless you are lucky enough to nick a major nerve center. that why a modern expanding point ammo and multiple rounds seems like the best method for me.
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    This video changed how I look at .380. Not to be underestimated. Paul doesn't mess around with his testing, and if you're new to him on YT, you're welcome. Yes I'm aware that it's FMJ, and that JHP out of a .380 definitely struggles, out of the predominantly shorter .380 barrels. Still, this test was eye opening as to .380's power.

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