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    NPR: “Mounting Evidence” Suggests COVID Not As Deadly as Thought

    When NPR talks, Liberals listen. After my initial surprise at the source of this article, I thought of my thread several months ago about whether we would have panicked as much and done the horrendous damage to our nation if Covid 19 had been dubbed..."Super Flu". We have been snookered.


    https://fee.org/articles/npr-mountin...bJHdRf3EgZ5tgo
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    A lot of truth in the story. I think most of us have believed the virus to be over hyped with political motivations and control motivations.

    I will just continue to drink my buttermilk, drink Tonic water, take my Zinc, Vitamin D and Vitamin C on a fairly regular basis, and hope something besides the Wuhan Virus doesn't get me first. Locally, we had one person die from drowning, one killed on a motor cycle, and another one shot and killed yesterday....no telling who all died from being over weight, heart disease, high blood pressure and cancer. No new deaths in Lubbock from the virus in the past few days, plenty of other deaths.

    Still, I am skipping Sturgis this year!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czechbikr View Post
    When NPR talks, Liberals listen. After my initial surprise at the source of this article, I thought of my thread several months ago about whether we would have panicked as much and done the horrendous damage to our nation if Covid 19 had been dubbed..."Super Flu". We have been snookered.


    https://fee.org/articles/npr-mountin...bJHdRf3EgZ5tgo
    I remember when eggs, bacon, and nitrate laden foods were labeled as deadly. I kept eating them and am still eating that deadly food. I bet eventually no one will care because the spread will have stopped and no one is getting any more sick than they did before covid came on the scene. Carry on camping.
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    20/20 hindsight is a wonderful thing.

    It isn’t all about the death rate — how infectious it can be also plays a part. COVID tends to be more infectious over a longer time, and the incidence of a asymptomatic spreading and absence of vaccine are other issues.

    We keep learning, things get better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake3501 View Post
    A lot of truth in the story. I think most of us have believed the virus to be over hyped with political motivations and control motivations.

    I will just continue to drink my buttermilk, drink Tonic water, take my Zinc, Vitamin D and Vitamin C on a fairly regular basis, and hope something besides the Wuhan Virus doesn't get me first. Locally, we had one person die from drowning, one killed on a motor cycle, and another one shot and killed yesterday....no telling who all died from being over weight, heart disease, high blood pressure and cancer. No new deaths in Lubbock from the virus in the past few days, plenty of other deaths.

    Still, I am skipping Sturgis this year!
    I have thought of this disease as a way to get people eased into socialism by making them lazy assed partakers of our (Those of us who are not afraid to work) hard earned money.

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    That article overlooks (it is NPR, after all - they have their narrative to push) the evidence that Saddam used the incredibly long buildup/bickering period to destroy or move his WMD. But let's get to the point.

    At the early stages of this pandemic, we were hearing that there could be two weeks when someone is asymptomatic and able to spread the virus. That can make for a really bad pandemic, even if the fatality rate is very, very low. The transmission rates have been low lately, but that is because of masks and social distancing. Is the cost of the social distancing worth it? I think that's a wortwhile discussion to have, but part of the reason they can write this article is that we've taken drastic, very effective measures to control transmission.

    And I know there are lots of discussions about "masks don't do jack, dude." Well, I'm not buying. At first, they said "save them for the medical professionals," not "they don't help." And every medical professional I know and trust agrees that they definitely help.

    We've learned more about this virus, of course, and the wild initial estimates have thankfully not been realized. But as I said months ago, that's the classic catch-22 of preventive medicine. Don't do anything, let people get sick, and everyone ignores preventive medicine or blames it outright. Do something, keep people from getting sick, and people say "it wasn't necessary - the outcomes weren't that bad."

    Here's what that article is 100% right about - intellectuals can convince themselves of the amazingly idiotic ideas. As a matter of fact, I've heard socialism described as an idea so terrible only an intellectual could buy into it. Heck, the "best" economists in the world recently admitted they were wrong about globalism helping the average US worker. Thanks guys, really appreciate that.

    But I still stand by my own education and the opinions of every doctor and nurse I know personally; this virus could have been really bad news. A significant response was well justified.
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    Remember, there is no good news. If the death rate is down, it's the infection rate. All news is bad, we're all going to die, put on your mask and stay home, subjects, OR ELSE! I'm so sick of the lies and deception. How many deaths from this? We'll never know, governments keep the stats and they lie. Does social distancing work? We'll never know, no one has scientifically determined how far the virus can travel. Does every piece of junk mask work? Very doubtful. I saw a man with a piece of horse blanket duct taped to his face. The fear is worse that the disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Czechbikr View Post
    When NPR talks, Liberals listen. After my initial surprise at the source of this article, I thought of my thread several months ago about whether we would have panicked as much and done the horrendous damage to our nation if Covid 19 had been dubbed..."Super Flu". We have been snookered.


    https://fee.org/articles/npr-mountin...bJHdRf3EgZ5tgo
    So nice to see NPR being taken seriously as it's a truly a great place to get actual news, and you are right that many Liberals do indeed listen to them. Just one problem, this isn't NPR speaking. It's Jon Miltimore doing an opinion piece on Fee.org, but using an NPR news article as the basis for his argument while adding a great deal of "opinion". What NPR was trying to point out at the time back in May, was the increasing signs of asymptomatic individuals in the US populace which would therefore lower the assumed at the time death rate. Those being people who were infected, but not sick, or at least those who did get sick but did not seek medical treatment. Here's a link to the original NPR article: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-...-first-thought

    Quote Originally Posted by GhostHorse View Post
    That article overlooks (it is NPR, after all - they have their narrative to push) the evidence that Saddam used the incredibly long buildup/bickering period to destroy or move his WMD. But let's get to the point.

    At the early stages of this pandemic, we were hearing that there could be two weeks when someone is asymptomatic and able to spread the virus. That can make for a really bad pandemic, even if the fatality rate is very, very low. The transmission rates have been low lately, but that is because of masks and social distancing. Is the cost of the social distancing worth it? I think that's a wortwhile discussion to have, but part of the reason they can write this article is that we've taken drastic, very effective measures to control transmission.

    And I know there are lots of discussions about "masks don't do jack, dude." Well, I'm not buying. At first, they said "save them for the medical professionals," not "they don't help." And every medical professional I know and trust agrees that they definitely help.

    We've learned more about this virus, of course, and the wild initial estimates have thankfully not been realized. But as I said months ago, that's the classic catch-22 of preventive medicine. Don't do anything, let people get sick, and everyone ignores preventive medicine or blames it outright. Do something, keep people from getting sick, and people say "it wasn't necessary - the outcomes weren't that bad."

    Here's what that article is 100% right about - intellectuals can convince themselves of the amazingly idiotic ideas. As a matter of fact, I've heard socialism described as an idea so terrible only an intellectual could buy into it. Heck, the "best" economists in the world recently admitted they were wrong about globalism helping the average US worker. Thanks guys, really appreciate that.

    But I still stand by my own education and the opinions of every doctor and nurse I know personally; this virus could have been really bad news. A significant response was well justified.
    NPR didn't get this one wrong as in their article (I just posted link above) not a single mention was made to Iraq WMD's. That was Jon Miltimore giving opinion (a Conservative editor you might be interested to know) , but you are correct that he was wrong. In was long known that Saddam had WMD's as he used chemical weapons at least twice. For some reason people hear WMD and think nuclear weapons. Which does fall under the WMD category, but chemical, biological, and radiological weapons also fit that description. You may also be interested to know that I could find no article in regards to NPR pushing a particular narrative in regards to WMD's. A lot of fact reporting, a lot of quoting and covering of government statements and sources, and most notably a timeline which I thought you might find interesting since you seem to believe they have an agenda and a dog in this fight. https://www.npr.org/templates/story/...toryId=4996218
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