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    36,000 More Lives Could Have Been Saved!

    Now take this with a grain of salt because it was reported by the NY Times and taken from a report at Columbia University. We don't have and never will have a way of proving it true or false so it's easy to just throw it out there. I don't know how they came up with these figures, but I can imagine it was through computer models which in my mind is very suspect.


    "If the United States had begun imposing social distancing measures one week earlier than it did in March, about 36,000 fewer people would have died in the coronavirus outbreak, according to new estimates from Columbia University disease modelers.
    And if the country had begun locking down cities and limiting social contact on March 1, two weeks earlier than most people started staying home, the vast majority of the nation’s deaths — about 83 percent — would have been avoided, the researchers estimated.
    Under that scenario, about 54,000 fewer people would have died by early May.
    The enormous cost of waiting to take action reflects the unforgiving dynamics of the outbreak that swept through American cities in early March. Even small differences in timing would have prevented the worst exponential growth, which by April had subsumed New York City, New Orleans and other major cities, the researchers found.
    “It’s a big, big difference. That small moment in time, catching it in that growth phase, is incredibly critical in reducing the number of deaths,” said Jeffrey Shaman, an epidemiologist at Columbia and the leader of the research team."-New York Times May 20, 2020
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    Millions of lives would have been saved if we had not engaged in WWII. All those people died because we put up a fight.

    Oh, the humanity!

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    Those numbers are bogus. There is absolutely no way you could get those projections with so little known at the beginning of this travesty. But we do have good numbers of those who have put off potentially lifesaving treatment due to the . . . well, travesty.

    Hundreds of thousands put off getting their heart bypass procedures and other lifesaving measures. Because hospitals were supposedly going to get overloaded. Except that the hospitals never got overloaded; in fact, many hospital workers were furloughed because they couldn't fill all their beds.

    I know of one case where a young adult came down with AML (Acute Myeloid Leukemia) which, for the record is very treatable with a 95% cure rate at 5 years. This person started not feeling well but did not go to the ER or doctor because of all the "stay away from hospitals and doctors offices" orders. The fear to go near medical facilities was heavily pushed by the media. Anyway, this particular young person missed the window to get managed in a proper fashion and died. Pretty much the first person to die from AML (never having been treated) in over 25 years.
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    I wonder how many would have been saved if China would have been honest with the world when all this got started ? We will never know !
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    Pretty simple really.
    This "research" will be used to vilify President Trump and paint his response to this crisis in a negative light.
    Expect it and other "studies" like it to get HUGE airplay in the next few months as we get closer to the election.
    GUARANTEED.

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    BC605 hit the nail on the head! The New York Times is no friend of President Trump and will try to shed a negative light on him any time an opportunity presents itself. Leftist will never let a crisis go to waste as shameful as that is. You might also have noticed that recent polls show ol’ Joe would win the election if held today. Looking at the fine print, only 1300 people were asked. That’s too small a sample to mean anything but, the media is pushing it. Rest assured that the leftist will try to blame Trump for the virus and his “poor” reaction to it, high unemployment, and any decline in the economy. The Dems are desperate to oust Trump and nothing will be off the table to win the election.

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    Any poll can be completely skewed by demographics of the zip codes of area to be polled. As a Realtor, I have tools to tell me the demographic of nearly anywhere!

    Another thing, I believe polls are always skewed to the left, as I refuse to participate in any poll, no matter who the pollster is. Politically I am to the right of Attila the Hun. I have a feeling here are a lot of old farts like me who feel like it's nobodies business who I'm voting for, and I like pleasant surprises, like we had in 2016!
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    I'm like you. If I accidentally answer the phone (I almost always decline cell phone calls if I don't know the number or if it says "unknown" on caller ID) and they ask for me or the wife I tell them (whoever they ask for) isn't here and can I take a message. They usually say, well either if you will do. I then say I'm not me but the guy cleaning the carpets if they still want to talk I just hang up.

    But, have any of you noticed a huge increase in unsolicited solicitation calls? Just the wife and I at home but we get upwards of 20 phone calls per day on our home phone and not a one of them is a personal call - ALL ARE UNINVITED SOLICITORS!! The whole country has been closed for 6-8 weeks and folks think they will get money for a phone call.
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    Numbers don't lie but people do!
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