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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonaredeye View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^
    I nearly fell outta my chair when I heard about Kawasaki's making a comeback. Kawasaki's syndrome is a primarily pediatric disease and defined by a vasculitus - inflammation of blood vessels (an arteritis, to be more succinct) in the same manner as with Lupus and Rheumatoid arthritis. Not sure why I didn't expect it but it does seem to shore up the treatment with drugs which interfere with the normal inflammatory cascades just like in Lupus and RA (hint: hydroxychloroquine).
    I may have suffered from Kawasaki's syndrome once, I believe it involved a KZ400.
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    Economists can explain why it happened...afterwards.

    It is a lot of cheerleading, Reagan was good at talking America up and it seemed to work. Trump is trying. Others consistently talk America down.

    Yes too many variables...not a pure science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhugg View Post
    Economists can explain why it happened...afterwards.

    It is a lot of cheerleading, Reagan was good at talking America up and it seemed to work. Trump is trying. Others consistently talk America down.

    Yes too many variables...not a pure science.
    Yep. The largest uncertain variable is human behavior. That is what the author or my "Fed Up" determined. The economists keep their heads down in their books and computers and the occasional slide ruler and can not understand why their models and predictions don't pan out.
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    Three economists deer hunting, they see a buck standing broadside.

    First one shoots, hits the ground at the deer's hind feet. Second one shoots, puts a bullet about a foot over the deer's nose.

    Third one doesn't need to shoot, because he considers they got a bullseye.

    The economics professor I took post-graduate classes under openly admitted -- economists are far better at explaining than at predicting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhugg View Post
    Economists can explain why it happened...afterwards.

    It is a lot of cheerleading, Reagan was good at talking America up and it seemed to work. Trump is trying. Others consistently talk America down.

    Yes too many variables...not a pure science.
    That's because the Republicans know that close to 70% of our economy is consumer driven. The Democrats know this also which is why they talk it down and attempt to scare the consumer when they want the economy yo be manipulated to their advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 230JHP View Post

    The economics professor I took post-graduate classes under openly admitted -- economists are far better at explaining than at predicting.
    ...and some can even fix things when they are broke. Like Milton Friedman. I wonder what he would do now. The theme to "All in the Family keeps playing through my head...

    Boy the way the tax cuts played,
    Stock market made the hit parade,
    Guys like us we had it made,
    Those were the days,

    But you didn't know who was who,
    Girls were men and men were girls,
    Mister we could use a man like Milton Friedman again,

    Gonna be a welfare state,
    Unemployment you can't hate,
    Gee our old car never runs great,
    Those were (not) the days
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhugg View Post
    Economists can explain why it happened...afterwards.
    They can't even do that. I've heard economists arguing about whether FDR helped or prolonged the Great Depression, 80 years after the fact.

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    Yes too many variables...not a pure science.
    Not a pure science? It's not a science at all. If you can't follow the scientific method, including the design and conduct of controlled experiments that eliminate confounding factors, you aren't doing science. The idea that economics is a science is laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daytonaredeye View Post
    ^^^^^^^
    So, were they not using PPE before hand? My original dentist retired a few years back but he started using PPE only in the '90s. Every dental visit since '95 on they are gloved and masked. Never been charged for it that I know of. I would ask them about it.
    They all wear gloves, masks, and eye protection for even routine care. I can't wait to see what the extra $12 gets me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracker627 View Post
    I had some dental work done right before our State shut down and have been living with a temporary cap on my front teeth for weeks. Now that we are moving to Code Yellow my dentist called yesterday to schedule my permanent cap. They read me a statement on their new safety procedures AND informed me there is now a $12.00 PPE surcharge. Just rubs me the wrong way but what choice do I have.
    Quote Originally Posted by daytonaredeye View Post
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    So, were they not using PPE before hand? My original dentist retired a few years back but he started using PPE only in the '90s. Every dental visit since '95 on they are gloved and masked. Never been charged for it that I know of. I would ask them about it.
    Have you noticed what the pandemic has done to the prices for PPE?

    Also, the level of protection now required in some medical facilities goes well beyond the pre-pandemic measures.

    At least with a surcharge, you should be able to expect it to come off when things return to some semblance of normal.
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