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    Coronavirus scaring some in law enforcement

    'Officers are scared out there': Coronavirus hits US police


    WEST BLOOMFIELD, Mich. – More than a fifth of Detroit's police force is quarantined; two officers have died from coronavirus and at least 39 have tested positive, including the chief of police.
    For the 2,200-person department, that has meant officers working doubles and swapping between units to fill patrols. And everyone has their temperature checked before they start work.
    An increasing number of police departments around the country are watching their ranks get sick as the number of coronavirus cases explodes across the U.S. The growing tally raises questions about how laws can and should be enforced during the pandemic, and about how departments will hold up as the virus spreads among those whose work puts them at increased risk of infection.


    “I don’t think it’s too far to say that officers are scared out there,” said Sgt. Manny Ramirez, president of Fort Worth Police Officers Association.
    Nearly 690 officers and civilian employees at police departments and sheriff’s offices around the country have tested positive for COVID-19, according to an Associated Press survey this week of over 40 law enforcement agencies, mostly in major cities. The number of those in isolation as they await test results is far higher in many places.
    Anticipating shortages, police academies are accelerating coursework to provide reinforcements. Masks, gloves and huge volumes of hand sanitizer have been distributed. Roll call and staff meetings are happening outside, over the phone or online. Precinct offices, squad cars and equipment get deep cleaned in keeping with Centers for Disease Control and Prevention guidance.
    Yet, many are worried it's not enough. This week, groups representing American police and fire chiefs, sheriffs, mayors and county leaders asked President Donald Trump in a letter to use the Korean War-era Defense Production Act to ensure they have enough protective gear.


    “We’re in war footing against an invisible enemy and we are on the verge of running out" of protective supplies, said Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo, president of the Major Cities Chiefs Association. “We’ve got hospitals calling police departments, police departments calling each other, and it’s time to nationalize in terms of our response.”
    Police are accustomed to meeting staffing crunches by canceling vacations and leave, putting officers on 12-hour on, 12-hour off schedules and, when necessary, by shifting detectives and other specialized personnel to patrol.
    And officers are used to risk. It's part of the job. But at a time when Americans are being advised to stay six feet from each other to combat an insidious virus that can live on surfaces for days, the perils and anxieties are new.
    This crisis is unlike any American police forces have dealt with before, said former Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis.
    “We're in unprecedented territory here,” said Davis, who led the police department when the Boston Marathon bombing happened in 2013.
    Streets are less crowded as people hunker in their homes. But police must prepare for the possibility of civil unrest among people who become anxious or unhappy about government orders or hospitals that get overrun with patients, he said.
    In New York, which has rapidly become the American epicenter of the pandemic, more than 500 NYPD personnel have come down with COVID-19, including 442 officers, and the department's head of counter-terrorism was hospitalized with symptoms. Two NYPD employees have died. On a single day this week, Friday, 4,111 uniformed officers called in sick, more than 10% of the force and more than three times the daily average.
    Leadership at America’s largest police department maintains that it’s continuing enforcement as usual. But they’ve also said that if the disease continues to affect manpower the NYPD could switch patrol hours, or pull officers from specialized units and other parts of the city to fill gaps -- steps also taken after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

    https://www.whio.com/news/national-govt--politics/officers-are-scared-out-there-coronavirus-hits-police/t3m65DlDfIQPzhKA5jh1ZM/

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    Yep. Not just Ohio. I got popped yesterday for busting a U-turn on the interstate due to a rollover accident blocking both lanes. Trooper was wearing gloves, and handling my paperwork like it was toxic waste. I was cool, and he had me dead to rights. I did find out that, so far, they won't be randomly stopping people traveling during our lockdown. They understand we have family to take care of, and just daily life in general. However, that could change if people get stoopid like they have in other states.

    Wife is still laughing, as I called it, "The $85 U-turn".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lone Eagle View Post
    Yep. Not just Ohio. I got popped yesterday for busting a U-turn on the interstate due to a rollover accident blocking both lanes. Trooper was wearing gloves, and handling my paperwork like it was toxic waste. I was cool, and he had me dead to rights. I did find out that, so far, they won't be randomly stopping people traveling during our lockdown. They understand we have family to take care of, and just daily life in general. However, that could change if people get stoopid like they have in other states.

    Wife is still laughing, as I called it, "The $85 U-turn".
    So, in other words, you received a ticket for trying to keep traffic flowing and preventing a longer wait time for others. Makes perfect sense to me.

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    I can see this happening in any of our front line responders, fire and rescue, EMTs, of course Doctors and nurses.

    Few folks think of Realtors, but back in my day, and particularly this time of year, I was meeting the planes of Doctors and Anesthetists coming to Lubbock to interview for positions at our med school to sell them on living in Lubbock, and then later to sell them a place to live. Both Cases we were together at least eight hours a day, at least half that time in the same car together.

    Cashiers at grocery stores or anywhere else are on the front lines so to speak. Think how many folks are well within the social distancing range of 6' at a cashier, hopefully not having to handle cash or coin from an infected person.

    Today, I am basically a hermit, don't want to cart anyone around in my car, so I went to remodeling strictly a few months back, and now I don't want to go into anyone's home to do a project. A couple of weeks ago, I went into a lady's home to meet with her about a project and she had just arrived on a airline coming back from Houston, and her husband was in Administration in a hospital down there. I was nervous about meeting with her.

    If I were a taxi or Uber driver, bus driver, I would be hunkering down at home instead of carting folks around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake3501 View Post
    I can see this happening in any of our front line responders, fire and rescue, EMTs, of course Doctors and nurses.

    Few folks think of Realtors, but back in my day, and particularly this time of year, I was meeting the planes of Doctors and Anesthetists coming to Lubbock to interview for positions at our med school to sell them on living in Lubbock, and then later to sell them a place to live. Both Cases we were together at least eight hours a day, at least half that time in the same car together.

    Cashiers at grocery stores or anywhere else are on the front lines so to speak. Think how many folks are well within the social distancing range of 6' at a cashier, hopefully not having to handle cash or coin from an infected person.

    Today, I am basically a hermit, don't want to cart anyone around in my car, so I went to remodeling strictly a few months back, and now I don't want to go into anyone's home to do a project. A couple of weeks ago, I went into a lady's home to meet with her about a project and she had just arrived on a airline coming back from Houston, and her husband was in Administration in a hospital down there. I was nervous about meeting with her.

    If I were a taxi or Uber driver, bus driver, I would be hunkering down at home instead of carting folks around.

    I'm just glad I'm as retired as I want to be, and for the duration of this crisis, I'm retired.
    Funny you brought up realtors. I had to take quick trip today and as I was driving down the street I saw an "open house" posted by the curb! Uh yea I'm thinking not a lot of lookers these days.

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    This is happening all over. I used to work in LE and have friends who are still first responders. Nobody wants to go out, nobody has adequate PPE.

    If your city or state is sheltering in place, your police aren't answering a lot of certain types of calls anymore. Sadly, bad guys know this and are also pushing their limits.
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    You can't blame law enforcement agencies for being cautious as they do deal with the public day every .

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    Yea, who wants to chase bad guys when they can sit there and run traffic all day, taking money from honest-hard working people who only want to get home quicker by making a u-turn?


    ...and no, I'm not 'anti cop', quite the opposite in fact, they have a tough job to do...but when I see petty stuff like this, for a U-turn, come on already.
    Last edited by Doc Holliday; 03-28-2020 at 04:38 PM.

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    I heard on the news earlier today that 500 NYPD are infected.

    "Just another cold...."
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    Aw, geez . . . Anyone thinking "Blue Flu"?
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