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    I've been wondering why the Wuhan virus is hitting Italy so hard

    I wonder if slave labor has anything to do with it.

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    Why did I say slave labor? I've read once or twice before about the Chinese government exporting workers to be exploited in places like Dubai.

    Looks like the government of the Philippines really doesn't want anyone to know how many Chinese are working there.

    And of course you have to be totally uninformed to not realize how much slave labor is used within China itself. Sure, they wouldn't have helped spread the Wuhan virus internationally, but I can't write about this subject without thinking of the poor wretches suffering under the socialist boot heel.

    When I worked at the International Atomic Energy Agency, I remember being told that back in the days of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, USSR employees' paychecks were sent straight to Moscow. Moscow sent each of those employees whatever monthly allowance the Politburo deemed appropriate. The person who told me about that finished with "that's still what's done with the Chinese employees."

    Now, if you think they inflict that on the highly educated Chinese personnel they let go to somewhere like the International Atomic Energy Agency, do you think they don't take money from the hands of the uneducated, unskilled laborers that get sent to run a sewing machine or swing a hammer*?

    Losing jobs to the Chinese is one thing. Seems like Italy is paying an even higher price for their economic ties to China. I could be wrong about this, but it makes sense. It passes the "follow the money" test.



    * yes, I realize there are some very skilled tailors, sewing machine operators (my wife among them), carpenters, etc. I'm not disparaging those folks at all; there are lots of those folks who can do things it would take me years to learn, if I could learn them at all.
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    90+ years old: 6% of deaths
    80 – 89 years old: 42% of deaths
    70 – 79 years old: 35% of deaths
    60 – 69 years old: 16% of deaths

    These numbers came from the World Health Organization YouTube page.
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    99% of the coronavirus deaths in Italy are people 60-years-old and older.
    And according to the BBC the the AVERAGE AGE of those who have died is 81!
    These are stunning numbers.


    All this from just: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...navirus-is-81/


    Italy is a country that honors and values its elders. Always has been so. MEDIAN age overall is nearly 47 yrs.
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    Part of the issue is Italy's aging population, part of it is that the Covid-19 stats include people who were already terminal and contracted Covid-19, part of it is their healthcare system. Italy has nationalized health care.

    Having lived on the local economy there and socialized with the locals, I've seen how it works -- which is about like any government program works. A plagued by inefficiency, false economy, political can-kicking, and competing for funding with other priorities (such as that bridge a legislator wants built or the study another legislator wants funded).

    Think of the VA a few years back (when Bernie was chair of the senate VA committee and veterans were dying on shadow waiting lists), except not as efficient.
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    Being a nationalized health care system I have to wonder how many in that 80+ year old group are being denied the life saving care they need because of their age. It's what Bloomberg would have done.
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    Outside of their socialized medicine is Italy, Spain and Mexico (covid 19 is not a big issue in Mexico, yet) Is the portrait of the families still having a great cohesiveness, still socially gather, including aunts, uncles, grandparents, great grandparents, and some homes may have 3-4 generations all living together. That family cohesiveness is something I have admired for much of my life. We had a lot more family cohesiveness when I was a kid, over 60 years ago.....sad to see this add to sadness also.
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    When my mother passed away in October from a bad case of pneumonia, my father got it and when I went to Michigan to help my 82 year old father I got it also. But I had to step up and handle the funeral as well as take over his finances.

    We decided it would be best for him to come to Tennessee and live with my wife and I.

    It has worked out great, he would have been all alone up there and we have plenty of room as our kids are gone. We had a beautiful guest room filled with antiques all set up. He has his own bath and sitting room. Where he can have privacy if he wants.

    This has been life changing for all of us in such a positive way. He is my father and best friend who my wife adores. He's had a large life in law enforcement and went into the private sector where he was a bodyguard to some really major people. Not Hollywood folks but people that are now running our Country as well as leaders of other nations.

    He's better than the History, Military or other movie channels! He's been in gunfights served his Country and protected the most influential people known.

    He came from a large Hungarian family where several generations lived in harmony! When I was younger this is how I was taught to care for our elders.

    If this Country returned to this lifestyle I believe it would be for the good of all.

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    "Family cohesiveess", Jake, as you said. That's the key. I can't express how much it is missed, here in our home. When I was growing up, my parents visited their brothers and sisters frequently. Those who lived a hundred-fifty miles away visited each other at least two or three times a year, and my brother and I got to know all our cousins, as they would often spend a month (or sometimes all summer) on the farm with us. Mother died young (59) but Dad often hosted family gatherings, When he was 70, he still had the family castle, a great four-bedroom house all to himself, and when his younger sister's husband died (they were living in New Mexico, at the time) rather than have her go to a nursing home of some sort, he flew her to PA and she lived with him another six years (during this time, family gatherings meant 35-40 people at Dad's house) until she entered her final illness. The following year, Dad himself, had a series of heart attacks and strokes, we sold our home and closed up our business in Maryland and moved home to care for him. Those last nearly-three years spent with him was a closeness and a learning such as I never thought it was possible to experience. Family history I had never even imagined was passed to me and to my teenaged children that was irreplaceable.

    Sadly, many families have never enjoyed such closeness, and it seems the trend in the general population will continue to fragment and separate. However, when we moved home from Maryland, I renewed acquaintance with a lot of my High School friends among the "Amish/Mennonite/Bretheren" plain communities. Numbers of them who took over the family farms simply added a room and bath onto the house for parents, and families continued as they have for generations among them. Today, a number of those old schoolmates are living on the family farm, in a room on THEIR children's houses.
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    The Wuhan Virus?

    Really? Wow.
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    Spoke with my Aunt in Italy yesterday. Most of the outbreak is located in northern Italy. My brother lived in Milan for many years and can attest to their horrible socialized medicine. Most Italian Americans that live in Italy have come to America for major surgeries including some of my family members. Italians are loving people but very stubborn and hard to reason with. Hoping they can overcome the spread soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesolationAngel View Post
    The Wuhan Virus?

    Really? Wow.
    Yes, absolutely. It originated there, and they covered it up for a month just like they did with SARS. Thousands have died because of it.

    And now they are lying and accusing US of sending it to THEM. Unbelievable. They said US soldiers took it to Wuhan. They threatened to cut off medical supplies and "drown us in a sea of virus."

    Their deliberate lies, their deliberate threats and attacks are why I refer to it as the Wuhan virus.

    It is the Wuhan virus; I will not support their lies and disinformation campaign.
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