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    If Coronavirus Had Been Dubbed "Super Flu" Would The World Have Panicked?

    I am extremely irritated that the MSM has jumped on this event with glee and wonder if the economic damage that it is causing is a big part of their plan. The Trump economy is a large part of his expected victory in November. The MSM went from predicting a recession on early 2019 and now have exploited the viral news at every turn. Our equity markets are dominated by Skynet like machines that scan the headlines around the world for key words and dump sell orders for billions f dollars in the blink of an eye.

    Case in point today:
    Coronavirus cases soar in Italy as authorities scramble to find patient zero

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/23/europ...ntl/index.html

    Contrast this with the fact that there are 1.6 MILLION cases of influenza there just this year. With a conservative estimate of 3% mortality, that means that 48,000 people will die from the flu.

    In South Korea, the estimate is that 600 people have been infected. What is not readily stated is that 30% approximately belong to a religious sect that has at the center of it's worship the requirement that the congregants SHOUT their hymns at the top of their lungs. They don't wear masks because that would blunt their praise....and their infectious saliva.

    Incidentally, they have churches in China in the infection zone and travel has occurred between the areas in the last month.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51603251
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    The MSM makes it's living chasing tragedy and bad news and then
    spreading it around as fast as they can.
    They expound on subjects they know nothing about.
    They twist and fabricate 'facts' to their advantage for profit.
    Then there are the 'sheep' that believe everything they are told
    and base decisions on fairytales designed to scare them.
    I would not doubt for one second most of this latest fear mongering
    is designed to affect Trump's chances in November.
    I quit watching the MSM years ago. They are boring, childish
    and more than a little dangerous.
    I can keep informed by doing my own research rather than
    being misinformed by the MSM.
    They are vampires with microphones and keyboards.
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    I am not sure there is a conspiracy per se'. But the Media monsters will latch onto anything that will force feed fear to the sheep. Was it a conspiracy with the intent of damaging the world economy? Or is the conspiracy that some rogue agent is working with the belief that Trump needs help with his enemies. Look at the contagion maps, seems like the hotbeds are in countries Trump is not fond of. Did the US create and help the spread of this virus? No probably not, but its a theory. Hope CNN isn't reading this post!
    I do not believe in either conspiracy above, but data points are often interpreted to craft a theory, which then becomes a potential conspiracy. At this point , I think the spread of this latest Virus, is just another disaster that will decimate the poor and down trodden across the world. The difference between the two flu's is one is somewhat treatable , and the latest one has no known antigen or treatment. If you have a weak or developing immune system you have a 50% chance of death. What is so sad is, that the bad actors around the world won;t cooperate to help contain this virus. Between the rough flu season and the Cvirus we may see millions die this year. I am certainly aware of the chances of exposure, even with the annual flu shot. So am modifying my behavior a bit. Using Purell high alcohol content gels on hands and face, before walking into a public venue/shopping, and again in my car after leaving. As I am unlucky enough to be one of those with a compromised immune system.
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    I don't think much of any conspiracy, particularly within China. China was already hurting from the trade war, didn't need to manufacture any stories to hurt their economy any worse than it already was. I've already heard folks in the USA complain about going shopping at big box stores that typicly carry a lot of Chinese made products having bare shelves.

    Try buying surgical masks anywhere!!! That ship has sailed. China did keep a lid on this way too long.

    Containment within the USA will be the thing to watch over the next couple of weeks. I am trying not to get overly concerned, and will not do so unless we see a serious lack of containment here.

    In the meantime, I am trying to remember to take some Zinc tablets as well as vitamen C and D on a more regular basis, and avoid the supermarket as much as possible, but my reason for that is our flu season is peaking. Hopefully, warmer weather will help with the Corona Virus as much as it does woth the flu.
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    Let's not forget how our entire nation lost its collective damn mind just a few years ago over the Ebloa outbreak, and that wasn't anything numbers wise compared to this. The news is doom and gloom all the time, and that's pretty much all it is because nothing gets people in their seats tuned in and riled up like a little doom and gloom. Fear outsells sex dramatically, and you can sell sex anywhere (just look at the commercials in between the doom and gloom sets). Changing the channel to another political spectrum of news isn't going to change that, just the form and shape that the doom and gloom walks in. And yes, there are elements of the left (in the minority thankfully) that would love to see the economy crash so that Trump can't cling to that as an achievement. That's no surprise, just like it was no surprise that many voted for Trump for the pure desire to burn it all down and rebuild on the ashes, and there are many on the right who would love nothing more than another Civil War and an excuse to start shooting. You will always have people that are so utterly terrified of the status quo, that the unknown is a more hopeful and potentially promising option regardless of how horrible that might be. That's not a what side of the fence you are on kind of thing in order to desire, but again, which form and shape that the doom and gloom walks in.
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    Problem with watching the elephant in the room with all of your attention is that you don't notice that little malaria carrying mosquito land on your arm and inject you with that deadly disease.

    While I agree that the Coronavirus is a health concern. Two things scare me more, Stupidity and the Media. Now if you group all three (Coronavirus, Stupidity, and Media) working together then there may be more to fear than fear itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silverstring View Post
    I am not sure there is a conspiracy per se'. But the Media monsters will latch onto anything that will force feed fear to the sheep. Was it a conspiracy with the intent of damaging the world economy? Or is the conspiracy that some rogue agent is working with the belief that Trump needs help with his enemies. Look at the contagion maps, seems like the hotbeds are in countries Trump is not fond of. Did the US create and help the spread of this virus? No probably not, but its a theory. Hope CNN isn't reading this post!
    I do not believe in either conspiracy above, but data points are often interpreted to craft a theory, which then becomes a potential conspiracy. At this point , I think the spread of this latest Virus, is just another disaster that will decimate the poor and down trodden across the world. The difference between the two flu's is one is somewhat treatable , and the latest one has no known antigen or treatment. If you have a weak or developing immune system you have a 50% chance of death. What is so sad is, that the bad actors around the world won;t cooperate to help contain this virus. Between the rough flu season and the Cvirus we may see millions die this year. I am certainly aware of the chances of exposure, even with the annual flu shot. So am modifying my behavior a bit. Using Purell high alcohol content gels on hands and face, before walking into a public venue/shopping, and again in my car after leaving. As I am unlucky enough to be one of those with a compromised immune system.
    The two illnesses are similar in that there is no "treatment" per se. Both are viral borne and the success course is prevention as you and others say. Once contracted, it's up to the body to form it's own defenses to fight it off and develop antibodies to prevent re-infection or future infection. Medical treatment is in the form of support of the person until that happens in the form of fluids and breathing support such as oxygen and or ventilators.
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    As Samuel L Jackson's character quipped in Jurassic Park "hold onto your butts".

    Another strain of the influenza virus began its circulation in the US about 2 weeks ago.

    Antivirals which work typically on influenza B, rhinovirus, Norwalk virus and most of the other viruses which make up ~ 95% of non bacterial upper respiratory infections do NOT work on the coronavirus. Not to get too technical, but most viruses replicate their RNA while inside a human cell then the collection of newly birthed viruses rupture the human cell abd spread to other cells. The coronavirus handles it RNA replication differently that typical viruses do. There is ongoing work to use combinations of antivirals - each interfering with RNA replication via different mechanisms - but nothing definitive thus far. It is possible the coronavirus will run its course before any effective treatment or vaccine can be developed. We shall see.
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    https://www.livescience.com/new-coro...-with-flu.html

    As far as the Trump market I'll just say it's performed way beyond what's justified by economic performance. To me it's built on easy money from the fed and deficit-ballooning tax cuts. If Trump wants to live by the market, he's going to have to be willing to die by it. We'll see.
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    There are many facts being reported in regards to both the C-virus and the flu that just aren't so. Much of the market dip is more the result of quarranteens preventing Chinese workers from getting to work than it is from deaths or even serious illnesses tied to this virus. I have a strong feeling that those that buy into the market today will reap the benefits come May. Traditionally when the weather warms up viruses die off and I'm sure this year will be no different.
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