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    Quote Originally Posted by Czechbikr View Post
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    Welcome from Northern Illinois! I heard some news today that there are similarities between this one and SARS, which might speed up vaccine development. Gordon Chang on Fox tonight did raise the specter that the China scene may be approaching a plague status.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus View Post
    I heard two doctors on the radio say the mortality rate is 5% so far. Of course that's an average. They both said however that it's unknown at this time if infected people are still contagious or not even if they survive it and the symptoms are over.
    Must be why they are doctors and not mathematicians. 20,471 cases with 425 deaths seems to me to be 2%.

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    This may be the real tale of the tape! The recovery / death ratio does not look good!

    There are 20,704 confirmed cases; there have been 427 deaths and 727 recoveries.
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    ^^ Maybe they haven't found all of the bodies yet?
    “…democratic socialism, the great utopia of the last few generations, is not only unachievable but that to strive for it produces something utterly different – the very destruction of freedom itself. As has been aptly said: ‘What has always made the state a hell on earth has been precisely that man has tried to make it his heaven.'” F.A. Hayek

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    If we look at the open source (news) now China is reporting 17,000+... it's interesting isn't it.. that it was only a few "hundred" when I first posted?
    Also to add, while n96 masks (or better) are great.. those "surgical masks" that some people are saying are not effective.. actually are effective and also better, than nothing.
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    Further Info and Perspective

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    Quote Originally Posted by Czechbikr View Post
    Must be why they are doctors and not mathematicians. 20,471 cases with 425 deaths seems to me to be 2%.

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    Around 2% could be bad news. Spanish flu in the US/UK was about 2%, and the Spanish Flu killed more people in a year than bubonic plague killed in a century*. The million-dollar question is how does it spread. Ebola's fatality rate is sky high, but it never spread in the US because our attitude toward cleanliness and care about bodily fluid exchange is very effective at preventing infection. If, as this article mentions, it may be spread both through air and water pipes, population centers could become very dangerous places pretty soon. But keep in mind, worst-case scenarios are almost always the least likely scenarios.



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    The 2% death rates of the Spannish Flu are most likely low, and I suspect the reported 2% rate of the coronavirus are also low.

    During the time of the Spannish Flu, our own govt. was trying to keep a lid on prevention of chaos, much like they have done on UFO's or anything that might excite the masses. It is as understandable for me, that the Chinese also try to keep a lid on things, although they tremendously failed this time around by not getting a quicker handle on the coronavirus.

    I can't help but wonder if we are being told everything about the coronavirus known by the WHO or CDC.



    Interesting tidbit this morning shows men's death rate from the coronavirus to be about 2/3rds of the total as opposed to 1/3 rd of women. I know my wife has never had the flu and is rarely even sick with a cold. She does work in a hospital, and I wonder about her bringing pathogens home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake3501 View Post
    The 2% death rates of the Spannish Flu are most likely low, and I suspect the reported 2% rate of the coronavirus are also low.

    During the time of the Spannish Flu, our own govt. was trying to keep a lid on prevention of chaos, much like they have done on UFO's or anything that might excite the masses. It is as understandable for me, that the Chinese also try to keep a lid on things, although they tremendously failed this time around by not getting a quicker handle on the coronavirus.

    I can't help but wonder if we are being told everything about the coronavirus known by the WHO or CDC.



    Interesting tidbit this morning shows men's death rate from the coronavirus to be about 2/3rds of the total as opposed to 1/3 rd of women. I know my wife has never had the flu and is rarely even sick with a cold. She does work in a hospital, and I wonder about her bringing pathogens home.
    Those health organization are just now on the brink of being admitted into China to analyze the disease and it's spread. As to the last part, women are cleaner than men which is probably why they stay healthier. They wash their hands.
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    sure hope this isn't a military virus that got out of hand - another Chernobyl on a worldwide basis. From my way of thinking, at 75 yo, if I get it, I get it - it's the youngsters that I worry about.

 

 
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