It would suck to need a gun and wind up spending the rest of your life trying to chamber a round.
There’s a video around — a guy and his son getting robbed in a store. He didn’t have a round chambered, winds up getting shot by the robbers.
The thing that sticks in my mind from that video is watching the guy in the process of dying, still struggling to get a round chambered. One of the saddest damned things I’ve ever watched.
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When I began carrying I was leery of carrying with a round in the chamber. That changed with the arguments that a lethal weapon is only lethal if ready to be deployed. I have insisted that almost all of my carry pistols have a manual safety.
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Exactly. I feel that when you have no other choice but to use it, you gotta use it. You don't want to clear garment, draw weapon, rack it then fire it. If you have problems with clearing or drawing, they're alerted and now it's a short metal pipe.
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Chambered Glock in a proper holster, or Taurus 856 in a proper holster. If you need it, you need it RIGHT NOW.
With the G2; one in the pipe, safety on.
With the LCPII; one in the pipe (it has a blade safety). I have at times hand one of these stuck behind the trigger on the Ruger. You have to press it out before the trigger can be pulled. I've trained with it both ways.
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Hmmm.. Chambers and safeties.
Every gun I carry is capable of being fired after being drawn from a holster. While there is much debate about whether a handgun is reliable or not, and therefore not worthy of owning [i.e., a Taurus vs a Glock], I would simply point out that an unchambered gun has a 100% chance of being useless.
Having said that, take a look at how the Israelis are trained. They carry unchambered, but their draw, rack and fire position is so well practiced that it looks like a chambered/draw/fire.
On the matter of safeties, I have guns with and without. When I carry an IWB soft holster [Remora etc.] I holster with both hands, then place the pistol IWB. If it has a safety, I place the holster with safety on, but when I get to the carry position, safety goes off and is carried ready to draw and fire.
Whatever you choose to do, my big suggestion is to train, train, train to use the gun you carry. It is MUSCLE MEMORY that acts when the adrenaline is pumped.
Just my $.02
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Have always carried with one in the chamber.
I always carry with one in the chamber. I have to get in a mindset depending on which gun I'm carrying. Typically, I carry my S&W Shield like a 1911 - round in the chamber, safety on.
The only deal killer for me with a gun is when the safety swipes up to fire, instead of swiping down. Make a safety like John Moses Browning intended.
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