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    Carrying at work

    Today is the first day I've ever carried a gun at work. (Oh--- I'm working from home this week! )

    Seriously, for as long as I can remember (been working 45 years) I've always worked for employers that "banned" carrying in the work place. Some even had company-sponsored trap teams and yet we weren't permitted to have our shotguns in the vehicles on the property.

    Some of the security chiefs (and legal eagles) I knew at those employers told me they worried about folks dropping or forgetting their firearms (e.g. while in the restroom) and that creating liability for the company.

    What are your thoughts?

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    Here in Kansas, it is against state law for a business to ban guns from private vehicles, even on the company owned parking lot.

    As far as I'm concerned, if it is the employer's private property, he gets to set the rules, just like I do in my home. Sure, you'll get someone who argues that it is a public place since it is open to the public, but I suspect that is either ignorance of the rights of property owners, or some type of communistic "I want my rules on his land" scenario.

    I had a disagreement with one of my students one time who thought they were free to bring weapons in to the classroom. He was ignorant of both state law and the student policy he had agreed to by signing.

    I, too, have never worked at a place where guns are allowed on property. It's never affected me though, as I don't carry anyway.

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    My employer does not have a policy against carrying a weapon. I carry, always, where ever I legally can and avoid place as much as possible where I can't.

    Funny story, one day we fired a nut job employee and the owner came up to me and said he would not object to me carrying as this guy was pretty crazy. I just nodded and said okay. Guess he has no idea I have been carrying for the last who knows how many years. That is how it should be, nobody at work knows I carry at work.
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    My office has always allowed carry inside it. Due to the goings on of late the load out has been upgraded a tad.

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    We are prohibited from carrying while at work. Kinda' sucks but I work with 3-4 other guys and we are usually carrying a 10" chef's knife that is very sharp. No defense against a crazed lunatic with a gun but better than nothing. Its OK for guests to come in concealed carry and this is Texas so there are a number that are.
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    Our employee handbook says nothing about firearms and I have never been told I can't carry. So I do. The owner and his son both have guns and shoot so if I were discovered I would think/hope they would just tell me to put in my truck and don't do it again. Plus there is 1 woman that keeps a pistol in her purse while at work.
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    Although I never thought of myself as the workplace authority, I guess I actually am- I carry almost always and certainly during this time. I am licensed to do so and so are a number of my associates who carry if and whenever they wish. My immediate superior, (which really means he signs my paycheck), is a collector and a cwp holder. No push back there.

    This is primarily the benefit of working in a small company that is not too hung up on policy as long as we adhere to the requirements of Florida Department of Professional Regulation, Real Estate and Community Association Management, and believe me, there is plenty to adhere to...
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    The last time I had any interaction with a police officer in Florida, he said the law deemed parking lots as "Private property open to the public" if there was a connection to the street without a gate. And any persons on the lot were deemed to be "trespassers at the sufferance of the owner", and if the owner wished to exclude anyone, he had to exclude ALL the public as well, either by signage or gates, and signage was a real grey area where different judges might rule differently.

    All this I learned just by driving my 13'-6" truck across a department store's lot and tearing down a telephone cable that was only at the 12'-6' line.

    (I was dragging 50 yards of cable with a pole on each side of the trailer. My company fought it and the upshot of it was that I, personally, was forbidden to enter the property again. No charges, no cost. Phone Co's fault for failing to make cable at least 15' above traveled portion.)
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    ^^ That's quite the visual!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash60601 View Post
    The last time I had any interaction with a police officer in Florida, he said the law deemed parking lots as "Private property open to the public" if there was a connection to the street without a gate. And any persons on the lot were deemed to be "trespassers at the sufferance of the owner", and if the owner wished to exclude anyone, he had to exclude ALL the public as well, either by signage or gates, and signage was a real grey area where different judges might rule differently.

    All this I learned just by driving my 13'-6" truck across a department store's lot and tearing down a telephone cable that was only at the 12'-6' line.

    (I was dragging 50 yards of cable with a pole on each side of the trailer. My company fought it and the upshot of it was that I, personally, was forbidden to enter the property again. No charges, no cost. Phone Co's fault for failing to make cable at least 15' above traveled portion.)
    I spent some time in Warsaw in the late 80's and somehow I don't think the local cops would have been so understanding if I dragged two Poles on a cable!

 

 
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