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    Gun carry safety fails in the news :(

    One of the stories isn't strictly a legal CCW story, because it involved a 6 yr old who pocket carried a handgun to school and it unintentionally discharged. Fortunately no one got hurt in that incident. It's unknown if he got the handgun from one of his parents or found it on the street. (which unfortunately happens these days)

    In one of the stories a guy was play wrestling with his son and his Glock fell out of his waistband and discharged. It's not clear from the article however whether it discharged when it hit the floor, or if the father might've tried to grab at it as it fell out. The pistol is being examined. Not not said is if the gun was in a holster (my bet it either was not, or not in a very good one )

    All four are very good examples of what NOT to do.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...tling-with-dad

    https://www.whio.com/news/local/crew...Xm4E0Uw1zJ2rI/

    https://www.lenconnect.com/news/2020...ts-self-in-leg

    https://www.whio.com/news/national/o...iqeSNqsrOUxAM/

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus View Post

    In one of the stories a guy was play wrestling with his son and his Glock fell out of his waistband and discharged. It's not clear from the article however whether it discharged when it hit the floor, or if the father might've tried to grab at it as it fell out.
    I call bullcrap on that one. Unless he was reaching for it as it was falling, and somehow his finger found the trigger, there is virtually no way that a Glock could discharge from simply falling to the floor.
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    Here's another story, not much added to the original. The first news I head was that the Dad was carrying SOB. Both the Dad and the boy were shot in the head. I'm trying to get a visualization of how that could have happened with the pistol falling out of the holster. A tragic story for absolute certain and the reason I seldom carry a gun without a manual safety.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ed/4581092002/

    Maybe clothing caught in the trigger guard?
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    All of my slide guns have a safety on them. Just one more safety feature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by texastaurusguy View Post
    I call bullcrap on that one. Unless he was reaching for it as it was falling, and somehow his finger found the trigger, there is virtually no way that a Glock could discharge from simply falling to the floor.
    Gotta agree. The Glock does have a trigger safety lever as well as a firing pin block. Now, I think most of us remember the story of the FBI agent a year or so back who was on a dance floor and his service issue a Glock fell to the floor - May have been a SOB carry as well - and it discharged. Maybe some of you can explain inertial firing pin blocks a little better?
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    As I recall, the FBI agent scrambled to pick up his gun after it hit the floor, it then went off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus View Post
    and it unintentionally discharged

    his Glock fell out of his waistband and discharged.
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    OK, here are the facts. NO gun will accidentally discharge - ever. Some defective guns may discharge when dropped on the muzzle but any other discharge is a deliberate pull on the trigger. Those guns with only a trigger safety, Glocks for eample, could be discharged if something comes in contact with the trigger, but highly unlikely. I've owned hundreds of guns and not a single one discharged unless I pulled the trigger. Example: A guy I know had a couple of "accidental" discharges. (Still alive) Common cause? His finger was on the trigger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokewagon View Post
    As I recall, the FBI agent scrambled to pick up his gun after it hit the floor, it then went off.
    That's my understanding as well. Not gun's fault but user's finger!
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    odds are the trigger got caught in his clothing. as for the claim that 'no gun ever accidental discharges'.. yes it does happen. a Pasco Co FLA sheriff's deputy had his Sig P320 go off in his holster when he bumped his hip against a wall

    https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ne...oubled-history
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashff00 View Post
    odds are the trigger got caught in his clothing. as for the claim that 'no gun ever accidental discharges'.. yes it does happen. a Pasco Co FLA sheriff's deputy had his Sig P320 go off in his holster when he bumped his hip against a wall

    https://www.baynews9.com/fl/tampa/ne...oubled-history
    I read that with interest as I have a "red box" P320 in 45 ACP that supposedly has been modified. I was expecting the date of the story to be older or that the LE didn't send it in for the modification. When both of those things happened, I have decided to not ever carry mine even thought they included a nifty holster. It doesn't have a manual safety either so the odds of me carrying it were long in the first place.
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