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    I would not recommend A IWB holster with that clip from the Holster Store, is is worthless. It is far to weak, when you draw your pistol the holster comes with it. I have one from them for a 3" 1911, new and sits in a drawer because of weak clip. I only buy custom IWB holsters, I like leather with leather belt loops this type of holster stays put like it should.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oso View Post
    I would not recommend A IWB holster with that clip from the Holster Store, is is worthless. It is far to weak, when you draw your pistol the holster comes with it. I have one from them for a 3" 1911, new and sits in a drawer because of weak clip. I only buy custom IWB holsters, I like leather with leather belt loops this type of holster stays put like it should.
    Some of that may come from the overly tight retention that new leather holsters mostly exhibit. I wrap my pistol on waxed paper, even a few layers thick, and jam it into the holster for overnight or even for a few days. Some people make the mistake of using a leather conditioner or saddle soap which can stretch the leather too much or make it limp.
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    Personally, I like the holster and clip in 230JHP's post. However, I prefer a forward cant, and a little deeper set inside the belt and pants.

    The clip goes over the belt, and thus keeps the holster where it should be, even when you are drawing. The metal clip-types has served me well for decades, and they can be changed out if you wish. The part of the clip you see protruding from the leather pad (below the end of the clip) is a raised portion that keeps the clip properly positioned.

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    Any iwb holster clip is designed to go over the belt. There is no retention security for a holster clipped to your pants only. In fact if there is a holster made anywhere in the world that is designed to only clip to pants it should be immediately thrown in the garbage.
    You also need a GUN belt. Makes all the difference in the world.

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    I gave up on clip based IWB holsters long ago. My first try was Remora, which I liked a lot. Now, all my guns have Sticky Holsters. A good gun belt keeps the Sticky Holster firmly in place, and because it uses pressure/friction, most of the weight of the gun disappears.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash60601 View Post
    Personally, I like the holster and clip in 230JHP's post. However, I prefer a forward cant, and a little deeper set inside the belt and pants.

    The clip goes over the belt, and thus keeps the holster where it should be, even when you are drawing. The metal clip-types has served me well for decades, and they can be changed out if you wish. The part of the clip you see protruding from the leather pad (below the end of the clip) is a raised portion that keeps the clip properly positioned.

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    I'm with you on these features. The Dun Hume I had, for the PT 145, was a nice holster and looked like the photo up higher. I could even live with the preset depth of the holster/gun but with the single clip (no matter how wide) it would not hold a forward cant. I learned that the two clip styles while larger do that for me and that's why I went with the Alien Gear. It affords cant and depth adjustment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 230JHP View Post
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    This sort of clip goes over the belt.

    Yes, it can be tough to get on, but you REALLY want the clip to keep the holster where it is; there's no time out if you pull the holster with the gun when you draw.
    I carry a holster similar to this with a metal clip over the belt at 5:00. The clip wore a hole in the seat back on our van... Wife not happy...
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    I prefer the spring steel style clips like those in the pic on post #4.

    There's a lip at the bottom that hooks under the belt when the clip is properly seated. Hook the clip over the belt properly and it's not going anywhere. There's also just enough of a rolled edge below it that you can easily remove the holster.

    Call me old fashioned, but metal is better than plastic. I've never had one break in the 27 or so years that I've been using them. I even used one from a cheapo holster (the best part of the holster was the clip) as a money clip for several years.
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    If you want to replace the metal clip with something else, start by soaking the holster to soften the leather. How much depends on the leather and how thick it is, so I can't offer a suggested time. The clip can be worked out of the wet leather, and something else inserted in its place. (I wouldn't do it, myself but if I did, that's how I would go about it).

    Then, while the holster is wet, you can wrap your gun in a couple of layers of supermarket bags, then in a layer of packing tape and insert it into the holster to let the holster dry and take the set of the gun.

    If you keep the clip, and don't want to/have too much trouble opening it enough to slip it over the belt, then just slip the clip over the waistband of your pants, and thread your belt through the clip as if it was a loop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 230JHP View Post
    If you keep the clip, and don't want to/have too much trouble opening it enough to slip it over the belt, then just slip the clip over the waistband of your pants, and thread your belt through the clip as if it was a loop.
    I have to do that with a clip on single mag pouch from Bianchi that I use when I carry my Para. The clip's so stout that I can't just clip it onto my belt, I have to thread it on.
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