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    CPL holders are not as nice as I thought

    https://www.michigan.gov/documents/m...8_611131_7.pdf

    The above report on statistics relating to CPL holders is probably of interest only to those of us who live in Michigan, but I draw some conclusions that are most likely of wider significance.
    Out of roughly 1/2 million CPL holders in Michigan there were more than 2,000 convictions for crimes. That rate is higher than I expected. Now, it's still indicative of an awfully law-abiding group with a crime rate of ~0.4%, but it is higher than I expected.

    Anyway, I found it interesting reading.
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    Interesting. I wonder if multiple convictions could have been attributed to any individuals. That would bring down the percentage.
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    We may be missing a key factor. Carrying a weapon is very attractive to nefarious characters. Although the majority are folks like you and me, many have an ulterior motive. It's not surprising at all to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadKaw View Post
    https://www.michigan.gov/documents/m...8_611131_7.pdf

    The above report on statistics relating to CPL holders is probably of interest only to those of us who live in Michigan, but I draw some conclusions that are most likely of wider significance.
    Out of roughly 1/2 million CPL holders in Michigan there were more than 2,000 convictions for crimes. That rate is higher than I expected. Now, it's still indicative of an awfully law-abiding group with a crime rate of ~0.4%, but it is higher than I expected.

    Anyway, I found it interesting reading.
    I'd be careful about drawing conclusions just from one set of raw numbers. An anti gun group once listed all the Ohio concealed carry license holders who have allegedly committed crimes (any crime at all whether it was related to a gun or not) in an attempt to portray licensed concealed carry as bad. What they didn't state (IMO on purpose) to state was

    A: the actual small percentage of those people compared to CHL holders who haven't been accused of a crime, and

    B: when someone looked into the number of law enforcement officers in Ohio using the same standard as the anti gun group used, the numbers were actually slightly higher than the civilian CHL holders, even though the percentage was still very small. If you strictly looked at the numbers, you might conclude that CHL holders are more law abiding than the police.
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    Interest that more were issued and received by 279.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 68Firebird View Post
    Interesting. I wonder if multiple convictions could have been attributed to any individuals. That would bring down the percentage.
    There may be some double-counting. Notice on page 11, there's a bunch of "Firearms" offenses, including carrying a concealed weapon. How is that possible if the person had a permit? Not a lot of numbers there but still, it raises questions.
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    I noticed some motor vehicle, traffic offenses included in the convictions. I stopped there. Seems they include everything major and very minor. Gets the stats they want.
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