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    My pants are also very heavy.

    You guys are lucky you have the option to wear cargo pants without anyone giving you a second look. As a female, cargo pants aren't exactly normal attire. I used to wear them years ago, but got tired of looking like a guy all the time (I do still wear them when going to the range). The problem is, women's pants are not made to carry anything. Fitted pants with tiny pockets don't hold much, and what I do put in there I constantly have to check to make sure it's not trying to escape. My belt* is full, and so are my pockets**, and it's rather uncomfortable. I've considered going back to cargo pants as they're more practical, but "someone" likes my lady jeans, and because I open carry, I get enough odd looks already without wearing cargo pants making it look like I'm trying to be someone from SWAT.

    * Belt holds OWB holster with Taurus, pouch with spare mag, pouch with multitool, Kabar knife, and flashlight.
    ** Pockets are stuffed with slim wallet (it's a simple bifold with a window on each inside half [DL, LTC], pocket on each outside half), phone, keys, hand sanitizer, lighter, lip balm, and knife.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oso View Post
    If I carried that much stuff I would consider a shoulder holster with mag pouches.
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    Nope. A shoulder holster cannot be concealed in 100 degree weather. I don't do shoulder holsters. I really think I had pressure on this spot while sitting leaning against my flashlight-leatherman case. I put that on the other side. I've also exchanged my 85UL for my naa black widow. My back has been getting better.

    I'm carrying my 14 ounce Kel Tec 9 on my belt last couple of days. 21 rounds for the primary eases my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NativeTexan View Post
    Friend of mine's wife gave me a T shirt says "it's not a beer belly, it's the gas tank for a sex machine."
    Whoa,
    whoa,
    whoa!

    Your friend's WIFE gave you that shirt? What did your wife have to say about that? Did your wife know at the time that other women think of you as the sex machine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeltaBravoKS View Post
    Whoa,
    whoa,
    whoa!

    Your friend's WIFE gave you that shirt? What did your wife have to say about that? Did your wife know at the time that other women think of you as the sex machine?
    My wife calls me that, so? See, my buddy and his wife all went to A&M together. She was a few years younger, but we've all known each other for a long time, since college days before I grew my beer belly.
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    Well, having back issues for a couple of years... 3-4 times a week 10 minutes training of the abdominals, not the 6-pack really, but it helps a lot if you are having troubles with back issues, especially the lower regions - I was at a physiotherapist for 20 sessions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rickenbacher39 View Post
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    So, now we are blaming it on the pants..........well OK then............


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    Anthropologist seem to think that 'liquid grain storage' was why the ancient Mesopotamians invented beer in the first place.

    Rossi 720 carried IWB with a couple speedloaders, work knife, 'socializing' knife, front pocket wallet, change, keys, can of Copenhagen and, if it's a work day, wireless earphones for the phone in a pouch (they are handy, I can work with both hands and talk to the tech support guys at the same time without getting a crick in my neck), a Leatherman and a stubby screwdriver that takes bits along with a dozen bits are in my pockets. If I need more tools to work on a specific project, then they get added, too. The phone rides in my shirt pocket or stays in the truck if I can get away with it.

    If the weather ever cools off (it's STILL in the low 90's this week), I move most of it to the jacket pockets. I'm conscious of the weight and try to keep it to a minimum. All that will be on the belt or in my pants pockets will be the gun, knives, wallet and change (and, if it's a work day, the Leatherman). In other words, the stuff you really, really really don't want laying around will stay on my person.

    Speedloaders go in the strong side lower jacket pocket, keys and screwdriver with bits go in the offside with a 3rd speedloader as back up. The Copenhagen and the earbuds go in the upper or inside pockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oso View Post
    If I carried that much stuff I would consider a shoulder holster with mag pouches.
    ...or a wheelbarrow.
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    I’ve had rubberized IWB strips sewn into the inside of the waist band on several pair of my pants. The rubberized strips add a bit of “grippiness” to the inner waist band to whatever shirts I have tucked in. I also default to suspenders when weather is cool enough to wear a jacket. I also have several oversized shirts meant to be worn not tucked in which I wear suspenders under (over a t-shirt).

    Those grippy strips add a good bit of antislippage to whatever pants I’m wearing, though. Think of the grippibess of a good quality pocket holster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NativeTexan View Post
    I have this electric foot massager that has electrodes to massage you back or whatever part of you. I got my rock and my Remoil and sat down on the couch all wired up for a 30 minute session and figured to sharpen my EDC knife while I was sitting. I forgot the knife in my pants, had put on my sweats. Wife goes and gets my pants out of the bedroom and comes in saying, "My LORD, baby, I can see why you have a sore muscle in your back! These pants weigh a TON! Well, I have my 17 ounce 85UL in 'em and my 6 ounce NAA .22 for back up in the weak side pocket. I have the knife in question and a leather pouch on the belt which carries my Leatherman Wave and a single AAA Bushnell flashlight. It all adds up, I guess, for carrying around all day. I add a 19 ounce .357 magnum on the belt when we go to town.

    So, I'm thinking maybe I should start replacing something. The Schrade is an assisted opener with a partial serrated blade that I REALLY like for gutting pigs, deer and such. The serrated blade cuts through the sternum like butter. I never think about getting a gutting knife when I head back to hunt, so I just carry it. But, I do have a much lighter non-serrated Buck which is much lighter. I could replace the .38 with my NAA Black Widow .22 magnum, I guess, but I'd feel a little under-armed if I walked out to go to town without the belt gun. I sometimes forget it for little trips to town. I cannot LIVE without my flashlight and Leatherman. I just don't really wanna cut back on the weight any.

    I think if I can just remember to arm up with a belt gun when leaving the house, the Black Widow would be a good replacement for the .38 in my load out and save me 7 ounces plus the weight of the heavier .38 ammo. I could then shed a speed strip in another pocket. Heck, I don't know that my sore back is result of the weight of my pants, though. I've been carrying all this stuff for years and not had the problem, of course, I'm older.

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    Just a simple suggestion. Go to any farm and ranch store and get a bottle of Horse liniment gel, order some DMSO, (pure, a trans dermal solvent), get a bottle of Aspercreme with 10% lidocane, and infuse some hippy hay into some canola oil.

    Mix the four together, 30% on the first three ingredients each with 10% of the last ingredient. You have a lovely brownish green gel that will cure any ache. If that doesn't work, then take a trip in a wayback machine that will melt the age and the weight off of you.
    That is the reason my wayback machine has not gotten a patent yet, I can time travel, just haven't conquered the age and weight part.

    If I ever get those two things worked out, I have to remember not to go back any further than my birth date, and going forward in time would not be recommended.

    Or, you could get a pair of these instead.

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