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    Recalcitrant Son in Law

    My daughter married this past April. We like the guy, really do. And we get along great with his parents (who hunt all their meat--the husband prefers bow, but his wife prefers rifle); we like them, and we'd be friends if we'd met them in some other way.

    My daughter and her new husband are quirky kids. We kinda worried she wouldn't find someone who was compatible. At the wedding, I mentioned that, and his father said, "Yeah, we were kinda worried about that, too."

    But she likes shooting and is a believer in firearms for self defense. She's done some martial arts and realized that, ultimately, a 5-4 125 pound woman is nearly always going to lose to a big man in a real fight. So she shoots.

    Her new husband isn't a pacifist--he's pretty decent with krav maga, but he doesn't like guns. So that cramps her style.

    What we're trying to get him to understand is that his thinking would be fine if it were just him on the street. When it was just him, he could make a decision of whether to fight, maybe lose, or just run.

    But now it's not just him. He can't just run, because she might not keep up. And there might be more than one assailant. And lots of stuff...but it's not just him that he has to think about.

    In my own case, being a fat old guy with a fat old wife, my primary strategy is to cover my wife's escape, and ultimately to have an option to "Please don't kill us."
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    Hopefully he will see the light before something bad happens. I would rather be armed and not need it than the other option ! In today's world though it seems to be happening more often to more people every day.
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    Lol surprised he grew up with those parents not liking guns. I would have figured him for a shooter. I think your point is spot on though...it's not just himself anymore. He has a responsibility to protect his family now. Maybe with parents and in-laws working on him he will come around!
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    Does he have a problem if she carries?
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    Your daughter's only had him on the leash for six months. She hasn't gotten him trained yet.

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    Women have their ways of getting what they want. Like when your wife does something wrong and somehow you end up apologizing.

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    My advice, privately share your views with your daughter, which apparently you have, and STAY OUT OF IT! This is THEIR family business.

    This from another guy with a "quirky" daughter who is a Glock owner and a confirmed shooter. I'd call her a chip off the old Glock, but I don't care for Glocks. Her husband is a minister and I doubt he's ever fired a gun. I'd put my money on her shooting faster than he can pray.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Para_Bellum View Post
    My advice, privately share your views with your daughter, which apparently you have, and STAY OUT OF IT! This is THEIR family business.

    This from another guy with a "quirky" daughter who is a Glock owner and a confirmed shooter. I'd call her a chip off the old Glock, but I don't care for Glocks. Her husband is a minister and I doubt he's ever fired a gun. I'd put my money on her shooting faster than he can pray.
    Best advice ever. Getting involved in affairs between man and woman is the surest way to get your feelings hurt. One or the other is sure to disagree with you, and that will strain their relationship. If daughter asks for advice, try to ask questions that, when she answers, lets her guide herself to the conclusions you want her to choose. Then it's her arguments that she will use in their conversations, not "My daddy says...".
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    Learned years ago when teaching women to shoot to stay out of their personal business. Usually if they have the guts to carry, they will draw a line about other things in life. They can work it out. My dad said a man chases a woman until she catches him. Then he is boss and head of the house as she directs and he is clueless she is calling the shots.

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    The guy will change, or not. She can still pack. I point to my wife as an example. She's a former MP, CHIP, and retired from the Bureau of Prisons, and is fully trained and refreshes annually. A car load of punks jumped out of a car and approached us one, one with a hand on a gun in his waistband. She dropped to a knee and assumed a supported, covered position. Against my him. When I asked her about it later, she said she figured my fat self would at least slow down a bullet. Interestingly, with two guns pointed at them, mis amigos decided to conducted their adventures elsewhere.

 

 
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