Hello Everyone,
I have been troubleshooting a magazine problem with my PT709. I was getting inconsistent feed and magazine drops. The magazines that came with the PT709 would come out when I fired the weapon, leading to a failure to chamber the next round, a tap rack would lead to a double feed. With one magazine, the magazine could come out on every round fired, the other came out once or twice per magazine load. This happened every time I visited the range, so I purchased two additional Taurus PT-709 factory magazines from MidwayUSA and took those out last night. When I fired Speer 124 grain or Federal 115 grain from those magazines, they remained in the pistol, and operation was flawless. When I tried the same loads in the magazines that came with the PT709, one ejected the magazine on every shot, the other twice during the magazine load.
I called Taurus this morning to see if I could get some help and was told it would be best to ship these two magazines back for replacement.
I’ve attached a picture showing one of the big differences between the magazines. The magazine on the LEFT is the newer MidwayUSA Taurus Factory Magazine, and the one on the RIGHT is one of the magazines that came with the pistol. The magazines from MidwayUSA came with a deeper groove on the side – you can really see it in this picture compared to the magazine that came with the pistol. In addition, the magazines that came with the PT709 do not drop free easily, but the two MidwayUSA purchased magazines fly out when I press the magazine release button. The magazines appear to have slight design differences to me. The groove channel (as you can see in the picture) is different. In addition, the place where the magazine release engages is smaller on the MidwayUSA magazine vs. the one that came with the pistol (on RIGHT). I’m not a gunsmith, but it would appear that the groove change results in a faster mag release and the smaller mag release area results in a magazine that remains engaged while firing.
Needless to say, I do not feel confident to carry this pistol (I am a conceal carry permit holder) with the magazines that came with the PT709. The magazines I purchased from MidwayUSA however provide flawless operation. I’m not sure if there was a manufacturing change for the magazines (though it sure looks that way in the picture).
Just an FYI to everyone who has a PT-709...
I have been troubleshooting a magazine problem with my PT709. I was getting inconsistent feed and magazine drops. The magazines that came with the PT709 would come out when I fired the weapon, leading to a failure to chamber the next round, a tap rack would lead to a double feed. With one magazine, the magazine could come out on every round fired, the other came out once or twice per magazine load. This happened every time I visited the range, so I purchased two additional Taurus PT-709 factory magazines from MidwayUSA and took those out last night. When I fired Speer 124 grain or Federal 115 grain from those magazines, they remained in the pistol, and operation was flawless. When I tried the same loads in the magazines that came with the PT709, one ejected the magazine on every shot, the other twice during the magazine load.
I called Taurus this morning to see if I could get some help and was told it would be best to ship these two magazines back for replacement.
I’ve attached a picture showing one of the big differences between the magazines. The magazine on the LEFT is the newer MidwayUSA Taurus Factory Magazine, and the one on the RIGHT is one of the magazines that came with the pistol. The magazines from MidwayUSA came with a deeper groove on the side – you can really see it in this picture compared to the magazine that came with the pistol. In addition, the magazines that came with the PT709 do not drop free easily, but the two MidwayUSA purchased magazines fly out when I press the magazine release button. The magazines appear to have slight design differences to me. The groove channel (as you can see in the picture) is different. In addition, the place where the magazine release engages is smaller on the MidwayUSA magazine vs. the one that came with the pistol (on RIGHT). I’m not a gunsmith, but it would appear that the groove change results in a faster mag release and the smaller mag release area results in a magazine that remains engaged while firing.
Needless to say, I do not feel confident to carry this pistol (I am a conceal carry permit holder) with the magazines that came with the PT709. The magazines I purchased from MidwayUSA however provide flawless operation. I’m not sure if there was a manufacturing change for the magazines (though it sure looks that way in the picture).
Just an FYI to everyone who has a PT-709...