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    I use the decocker on my 809c all the time, but always let the thumb take the hammer down slowly.
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    "Semper paratus, numquam indigens." - "Always prepared, never needed."

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    Update. After seeing pictures on trigger block i disassembled gun and noticed I didn't have all the packing grease out of it. Cleaned second time and took to the range. Only had time to throw about 50 rounds down range due to sighting in new red dot on my 8 yr olds M&P 15-22. No discharges using decocker, however had fail to feed on last round on every clip used. Was putting 5 rounds at a time in clip so I could test decocker more often. Not sure what is causing ftf. Done it on both clips. May just not be broke in yet. Luckily as a home gun I have 17 rounds begore last one.
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    Good to hear that the decocker is behaving properly. What sort of FTF did you have? Did the last round get hung up while feeding, or was it not stripped from the magazine at all? My PT809 was indeed temperamental for the first 100-200 rounds. It shot accurately, but I would get quite a bit of random stoppages.

    I'm leery of using solvents on polymers, but I spot-tested Gunscrubber (polymer safe) and it did not cause any swelling or solvent crazing on the polymer frame. It's pretty good at removing all the grease, especially those impossible to reach places. I suppose CLP, Remoil, or anything else will work too, but Gunscrubber is convenient just for blasting it out. Note that much of the crud will be blown into the mainspring housing. I did it for the first time in 2000 rounds and it looked like a beach with all the powder grains when I removed the back grip insert.

    Did Taurus comment on your unintended discharge?

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    Thanks for info. Did not contact Taurus. Wanted to try again first. I have 450 more rounds to put through it when i can get back to range. Gun is fairly accurate but, my pt140 is alot more accurate . Not sure why. I would think a bigger frame gun with less recoil would be more accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colbyco View Post
    Thanks for info. Did not contact Taurus. Wanted to try again first. I have 450 more rounds to put through it when i can get back to range. Gun is fairly accurate but, my pt140 is alot more accurate . Not sure why. I would think a bigger frame gun with less recoil would be more accurate.
    You'll rarely get the best accuracy out of any gun when it's brand new. Parts have to fit themselves together, and the barrel basically deburrs itself in the first 500-1000 rounds. When my Para was new, it would throw a flyer or two with every magazine. And somewhere right around 500 rounds it settled down and quit doing it. My CZ75 was the same way. New triggers take some getting used to as well, and dry firing practice will help a lot to find the sweet spot in the trigger. But clear it before you dry fire - don't need any more holes in the kitchen floor.
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    I also use the decocking leaver a lot. But I use my left thumb and index finger to ride the hammer home while my palm is over the slide. This way if the round does goes off, the force of the slide doesn't go against the rotation of my thumb. You might get cut by the slide but at least no broken bones btw when you decock the 800 series you will notice that the hammer is not flush on the firing pin. In my 809 there are three small dots (burrs) on the right side of the hammer thatbtells me if its all the way in or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by colbyco View Post
    Bought a new p809 yesterday at Academy Sports. Got the gun home, stripped, cleaned, and lubed. Usually break in before trusting a gun; however I traded my home defense gun for this one. Loaded u p, racked round in chamber and used de-cocker to release hammer. Gun discharged into the kitchen floor barely missing the family dog. You talk about scaring the crap out of me. Wife and son were in next room. Luckily everyone was ok besides the ceramic tile. My question is what happened? Calling Taurus tomorrow. Hopefully Taurus will find out what is wrong. Scared to use till i send back. Anybody else have this issue with 800series. I am not a Taurus basher by far. I currently own 5 Taurus pistol's and love them all.
    Don't mean to sound like a d#ck here, but how "stripped" did you take down the gun? Fieldstripped or detail? If you detail stripped it and re-assembled it wrong... It might not be Taurus' fault.
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    Thanks, having my first semi auto (PT809) isn't stressful enough. I'm used to my .357 six shooter but for some reason one in the chamber of my Taurus doesn't feel as safe to me. (Not a bust on Taurus). As a revolver guy I thought I was the only person that passed on using the decocker when not at the range. Glad you're puppy is ok.

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    This is weird, for this to happen the firing pin block must have been disengaged, may be it was stuck in the open position from the factory grease, but also the de-cocker mechanism had to be stuck for it not to catch the hammer. Sort of a compound failure. Good lesson learned though. Always triple check your new gun after triple cleaning it. Good to hear everyone is ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by andreew View Post
    Sorry to hear about your experience.

    Do you want to test the decocker? Remove the magazine, unload the weapon, check that it's clear. Put a pencil into the barrel with the eraser end first in. Cock the hammer, and activate the decocker and see if it shoots out? You can use the trigger to see how it would otherwise shoot out when the firing pin is allowed to go forward.
    LOL this is exactly what i did when i got mine and after cleaning it, and I continue to do it every now and then just to make sure it is ok to use.
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