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    Main Battle Rifle.....5.56 style AR or 7.62 style AK

    So I was wondering what everyones take is on the two types of weapons. Some may call me un-American, but I prefer the 7.62 AK over the 5.56 AR. While in the military I had many problems with my 5.56 weapons. Now that I am a civillian, even though I have no where near the rounds fired, I have never had a problem with my AK. Not wanting this to become a bash thread just want to hear people honest preferences.

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    I prefer the AR style rifles just based on looks and "feel" of the two rifles. Never been a big fan of the AK's looks or feel when being handled but that's just me. I know a few people with AK's and they always seem to be having issues with them. I'm not blaming the rifle as much as I would the owner on that issue either. If it came to a SHTF situation, I'd pick one up in a heartbeat if I had the ammunition for it
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    AR for me as well.

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    While there is absolutely no denying the durability of the AK platform for dependability of the AK in the very harshest of conditions, I don't plan on putting my battle rifle in a mud hole or under the treads of a tank in the real world. The two and a half pounds less weight of the AR platform as well as the accuracy are the trump cards I prefer to have slinged over my shoulder. And I have three long guns in the AK platform, one a shotgun, and the other two to loan to my friends who don't know squat about firearms if the SHTF.
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    Got my battle Rifle (one of them anyway)
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    The AR is for me.

    Manual of Arms is a subconscious thing for me, malfunction drills (even though I've never had a real malfunction in an AR) is second nature. Easy to put multiple rounds on target. Lighter fully loaded magazines and a lighter platform.

    Keep 'em wet and perform simple cleaning every 500 or so rounds and you are gtg.

    I've shot AK's, they're fun to shoot no doubt about it. I simply don't know enough about them, and don't want or see the advantage of learning a new platform. I could pick one up and figure it out I'm sure, but it wouldn't be second nature familiarity.
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    Not to be pedantic, but neither rifle meets the DoD definition of a "Battle Rifle". They are both "Assault Rifles". The caliber is wrong, for one.

    While we may be issuing the Assault Rifle as the standard, it doesn't make it what it's not. Deliberately blurring definitions leads to chaos. The new, super-short barreled ARs are NOT sub-machineguns, either. Nor is the 5.7x28 weaponry (PDWs).

    As technology advances, new classes of weapons come into being. Saddling them with older definitions/titles leads to mistakes in what they are meant for, and do. Especially when the caliber, or platform, has been specifically designed for a purpose other then what the older classification was meant to be used for.

    As for the AK vs. AR discussion, I have wondered why it still exists. Today, there are American built AK rifles that are every bit as practically accurate as the AR. Yet, they maintain the reliability of the AK of legend. The Ar has also benefited from better materials, better coatings, and better tolerances than ever before.

    It's when well-worn, and more "mass-produced" original tolerances, meet in battle that we see differences. These aren't the latest examples of the manufacturers art. They are usually looser, perhaps not quite as clean, and some what battered. The AK, in that venue, will continue to operate when the AR has given up. They were, however, built with that in mind. The AK that exists after the similar AR is out of service won't be shooting 3 MOA, nor will it be a fine example of the gunmakers art. It will still fire, and that's about all that can be said for it.

    Now, as those examples of the latest weapons enter the fray, on both sides, we will have to re-evaluate.

    The AK47/74 can be made much more accurate, without sacrificing reliability, ask Krebs. The same for the AR being more reliable.

    The current disdain for the AK is more properly disdain for the users. We have not, since Vietnam, faced an enemy who could, or wanted, to use their weapons properly. Stepping around a corner, screaming a religious phrase, and dumping the magazine while firing from the hip isn't going to result in anywhere near the body count of disciplined, aimed, fire. Used by a motivated and trained foe, Vietnam showed the AK to be a lethal weapon, capable of holding it's own against the AR.

    In the end, neither platform is superior. What makes the difference is the men and women wielding them.

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    I would probably favor the AR because that's what I spent the most time with as an 11B. However, I would do a reasonable bit of aftermarket upgrading to make it as reliable as possible e.g., installing a piston system, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JR View Post
    Not to be pedantic, but neither rifle meets the DoD definition of a "Battle Rifle". They are both "Assault Rifles". The caliber is wrong, for one.
    Yep, there you go again, being pedantic! My battle rifle will happen to be whatever rifle or carbine I have in my hands and if they accept or have a bayonets, it will be just that much more of a battle rifle to me.

    By your definition, the battle rifle is today absent from the battle field as the AK and AR are not to be used also as clubs. Still, they both work pretty good as pig stickers if one side isn't carrying one of those long Battle Rifles!
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    I like the accuracy of an AR and the reliability of the AK. I bought a Stag Arms model 8, which is a piston driven AR. Gives me the best of both worlds. As far as the .223 is concerned - it's seemed to get the job done for the last forty years or so. And as civilians we've got more options for ammo than the military does. I wouldn't want to get shot with one. Course I wouldn't want to get shot with a 22 short either. I'm funny that way.
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