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    6.5mm Carcano M91 Moschetto da Cavalleria

    I saw one of these at my LGS and did a little research. Does anyone have any experience with it? Looks like an interesting gun for really cheap money. Even cheaper than a Mosin Nagant ...
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    I owned one when I was about 16 back in 1964. Mine had all chromed metal except for the barrel and receiver which had a really good blue job on them. The stock had a blonde finished wood and was very smooth. I always thought that it was an honor guard gun, or parade gun. Perhaps someone had just fancied it up, I really don't know. I had traded a Swiss Schmidt Rubin for it because the Swiss ammo was very hard to find and I got 20 rounds with the Carcano, and it was more of a carbine, whereas the Schmidt Rubin was a long and heavy gun, although I had sporterized it and the grain in the Walnut Stock was absolutely beautiful.

    Anyhow, I shot the Carcano, I can't remember if I fired all 20 rounds, but it was very accurate with the iron sights at 50 yards. I eventually traded it in on something else as the ammo was not available in Brownfield or Lubbock. There was a large gun store in Abilene, Tx that probably carried carried it back then, but the area around Brownfield did not have any deer that ever allowed you to see them.

    Lee Harvey Oswald apparently thought very highly of the Carcano as that was his choice of a Sniper Rifle in Dallas, but Jack Ruby made sure he is not still around to expound on the Carcano. Yep, I love conspiracy theories!
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    Had one I bought for $20 in 1962, gave it to one of my sons 5 years ago.

    Still got some circa 1936 ammo for it that still shoots well.

    They have "gain twist" rifling in their barrels that one either loves or hates.

    The only thing I don't like about this series is they safeties.

    Some take a crow bar and two orangatans to disengage.

    Their fixed magazine is open on the bottom, which allowes empty clips to fall out, and dirt to get in, if fired from the prone postion.

    Lee Harvey Oswald is one of it's most infamous users.
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    There are those who claimed it shot a magic bullet...I think that fellows name was Earl Warren.

    For a discharged Marine to have picked the Carcano for such an infamous crime, I would think Lee Harvey Oswald liked it for reasons other than just being cheap.

    Both the Italian Carcano and the Swede 6.5 are very flat shooting rounds. The Swede 6.5 gaining a lot more popularity with American hunters, perhaps due to political reasons, maybe mechanical reasons. I really like the idea of the gain twist in the Carcano, although constant twist landings or riflings have worked fine.

    I suspect the Carcano 6.5 aspects had influence on necking down the 30-06 to .270 and .250 (25-06).
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    I had a Swiss 6.5 with the round pull ring on the bolt for cocking years ago. I think I paid 25 or 30 bucks. It was amazingly accurate ... and heavy. I forgot what I traded it for. The good old days when you could buy, trade, or sell without a ream of paper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willboat View Post
    I had a Swiss 6.5 with the round pull ring on the bolt for cocking years ago. I think I paid 25 or 30 bucks. It was amazingly accurate ... and heavy. I forgot what I traded it for. The good old days when you could buy, trade, or sell without a ream of paper.
    They may have made the Schmidt Rubin in 6.5, but I think if you research it, you will find it was 7.5
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    If you look at the overall development of rifles, or muskets, they started out with large calibers. This was due to black powder not being as quick or powerful as modern day propellants and a round ball not having the mass of a conical bullet.

    The caliber wars really were in earnest back in the cap and ball days.

    The advent of the mini-ball (a conical bullet) during the not so civil war saw that deeper penetration could be obtained with smaller diameter bullets, and the advent of smokeless and more powerful propellants lead to smaller and smaller calibers.

    At the time the 7.92, 30-06, 30-30 and even the .38 special were initially developed, they used black powder, so there was a need for large cartridge cases. As time went on, the power of the propellants improved and well as military tactics and the length of the battlefield.

    Trench warfare was gone, no more need for the infantryman to be shooting at troops a mile away, and velocity could be traded for diameter and mass, and the cartridge cases became shorter, bringing us to today's modern and shorter, smaller diameter rounds like the 5.56 and 5.7 rounds.

    In my opinion, the 6.5 Carcano and Swede rounds have been an important part of that evolution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willboat View Post
    The good old days when you could buy, trade, or sell without a ream of paper.
    When those prices existed, the only paper involved was the receipt if even that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jake3501 View Post
    They may have made the Schmidt Rubin in 6.5, but I think if you research it, you will find it was 7.5
    You are probably right .. it was a very long time ago.
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    Those Swiss rifles were only $80 to $90 nine or so years ago. Got me a K31 back then. Still got more than a case of that 7.5 Swiss ammo, too. Great accurate rifle with a sweet trigger. Collecting and Shooting the Swiss Karabiner Model 31 (K31) - AMMUNITION


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