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    MO tells feds to pack sands also

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    Yay!!
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    Howdy,

    It's a direct violation of the US Constitution for States to interfere with Federal Law(s) or to try to enforce the US Constitution.

    Gee, am I the only person on TA that took and had a passing grade in Jr. High Civics class?

    Any State law would be more useless than used toilet paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stengun View Post
    Howdy,

    It's a direct violation of the US Constitution for States to interfere with Federal Law(s) or to try to enforce the US Constitution.

    Gee, am I the only person on TA that took and had a passing grade in Jr. High Civics class?

    Any State law would be more useless than used toilet paper.

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    Paul,

    I'm quite aware of the problems with State Nullification. Legally it is a possibility but the Supreme Court has repeatedly gone against it. HOWEVER what it would do is move the SC to rule on whether that particular law is constitutional or not.

    Also if enough states state they are willing to do such an act, the hope is that it may cause the feds to backtrack. I admit, this is a weak possibility. But enough could indeed strain their manpower.

    Add in the link Bender provided which states a sheriff is a constitutional officer does indeed give wiggle room. Will that sheriff be opening himself and his department up for trouble from the Federals? Yes. Once again enough doing so would give the gov fits and may indeed strain their available manpower.

    An example is the simple laws that exist but are not enforced as they cost too much to do so or are ignored by so many as to make the law unenforceable.

    As it stands requiring state, county or city (or local) officials to participate in a federal program has been declared illegal in the past:

    In 1997, the Court again ruled that the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act violated the Tenth Amendment (Printz v. United States, 521 U.S. 898 (1997)). The act required state and local law enforcement officials to conduct background checks on persons attempting to purchase handguns. Justice Antonin Scalia, writing for the majority, applied New York v. United States to show that the law violated the Tenth Amendment. Since the act "forced participation of the State's executive in the actual administration of a federal program", it was unconstitutional.
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    Not that our "beloved President" has not trampled the Constitution before:

    KNIGHT: Trashing the Constitution - Washington Times

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stengun View Post
    Howdy,

    It's a direct violation of the US Constitution for States to interfere with Federal Law(s) or to try to enforce the US Constitution.

    Gee, am I the only person on TA that took and had a passing grade in Jr. High Civics class?


    Any State law would be more useless than used toilet paper.

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    Cool it down folks you may debate law all you want but to infer that you are superior to others is a violation of our Guidelines which is great because we are a private forum and can write our own rules to live by and you have to follow them or we can take action as we see fit.
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    We all have Senators, last I remember, two to a state. If a state imposes this law, then that should be a clear mandate to the two Senators who represent that state in D.C. It is a lot cheaper to use this method to influence senators and representatives than to have a general public referendum.

    Hopefully, there will never be a street standoff between the feds and the County Sheriff. Were there to be one, I would expect the crafty Sheriff to have a much better feel of the lay of the land and to be readily able to deputize all the back up he needs.

    The worst situation the feds could ever do in regards to public opinion would be a battle with a Sheriff and his/her deputies. It isn't going to happen that way or we are all in serious trouble. I think the states exercising their muscles this way is keeping Obama from trying to exercise powers beyond the scope of his job title, so Kudos to all states that do.


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    I wrote my Missouri Rep and Senator just yesterday asking them to introduce a bill such as this. I realize fed law supersedes state law but local law enforcement could fail to enforce it. I live in a rural area, the only law enforcement is either the State Patrol or the Sheriff. I'm going to email my Sheriff to see what he has to say on the matter.
    "We've got a Muslim president who hates farming, hates the military, hates the U.S. and we hate him!". Hank Williams Jr.

 

 
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