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    Irony for Independence Day

    The Pledge of Allegiance was written by Francis Bellamy - a Christian Socialist. If you are not familiar with them, they espouse Liberation Theology. it was written in 1892 and the original text was
    I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
    The point he was emphasizing in the post-civil war era was indivisibility. That was certainly a concept that our framers would not have agreed with (well, I suppose Madison might have), in fact three states explicitly reserved the right to secede before signing the Constitution - Virginia, Maryland, and Rhode Island.

    Therefore I submit that, unlike the Declaration of Independence, the Pledge of Allegiance is an anti-patriotic document and should be ignored by all right (I mean correct) thinking people.

    Excuse me while I duck behind this concrete barrier and check my ammo. Happy Independence Day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadKaw View Post

    Therefore I submit that, unlike the Declaration of Independence, the Pledge of Allegiance is an anti-patriotic document and should be ignored by all right (I mean correct) thinking people.
    "By 1970, New Left proponents had adopted the term political correctness."~~~Wikipedia

    And...the world as we know it, has not been the same since.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    "By 1970, New Left proponents had adopted the term political correctness."~~~Wikipedia

    And...the world as we know it, has not been the same since.
    Point taken
    How about "by all thinking people"?
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    From what I understand about political correctness, the folks who adhere to to it, believe they are, in fact, the only "thinking people".

    I have to wonder how all of the "wandering-aimlessly without-a-clue" folks made it through the process of civilization before the light of political correctness came along and illuminated the world?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilProGuy View Post
    From what I understand about political correctness, the folks who adhere to to it, believe they are, in fact, the only "thinking people".
    Don't make me come out from behind my concrete barrier!!!

    Then...

    Therefore I submit that, unlike the Declaration of Independence, the Pledge of Allegiance is an anti-patriotic document and should be ignored by all.

    Wait, one more try...

    Therefore I submit that, unlike the Declaration of Independence, the Pledge of Allegiance is an anti-patriotic document and should be ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadKaw View Post

    Don't make me come out from behind my concrete barrier!!!
    Alright already...I'm leaving you to your own devices!

    Don't shoot!

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    So I won?
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    "Bellamy commented on his thoughts as he created the pledge, and his reasons for choosing the careful wording:

    "It began as an intensive communing with salient points of our national history, from the Declaration of Independence onwards; with the makings of the Constitution... with the meaning of the Civil War; with the aspiration of the people...
    "The true reason for allegiance to the Flag is the 'republic for which it stands'. ...And what does that last thing, the Republic mean? It is the concise political word for the Nation - the One Nation which the Civil War was fought to prove. To make that One Nation idea clear, we must specify that it is indivisible, as Webster and Lincoln used to repeat in their great speeches. And its future?
    "Just here arose the temptation of the historic slogan of the French Revolution which meant so much to Jefferson and his friends, 'Liberty, equality, fraternity'. No, that would be too fanciful, too many thousands of years off in realization. But we as a nation do stand square on the doctrine of liberty and justice for all..."

    Bellamy "viewed his Pledge as an 'inoculation' that would protect immigrants and native-born but insufficiently patriotic Americans from the 'virus' of radicalism and subversion."[4]"

    Doesn't quite meet what you said, sir. Plus:

    "In 1891, Daniel Sharp Ford, the owner of the Youth's Companion, hired Bellamy to work with Ford's nephew James B. Upham in the magazine's premium department. In 1888, the Youth's Companion had begun a campaign to sell American flags to public schools as a premium to solicit subscriptions. For Upham and Bellamy, the flag promotion was more than merely a business move; under their influence, the Youth's Companion became a fervent supporter of the schoolhouse flag movement, which aimed to place a flag above every school in the nation. By 1892, the magazine had sold American flags to approximately 26,000 schools. By this time the market was slowing for flags, but was not yet saturated."

    The Schoolhouse Flag Movement was a scheme to sell flags, first and foremost. Doesn't sound like Libertarianism. Nor does the definition that you offered seem to hold water in the manner that you want it to when viewed alongside the actual article.
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