.45 ACP

[GreenWolf70]

I don't know why so many seem enamored of firing auto pistol rounds in revolvers when there are so many really good revolver rounds that work better?

Taurus' new .44 Special revolver for instance fires a great revolver round, especially if you reload. The M327 (oh, why doesn't Taurus make a 4" barreled version) is another great revolver in a great little revolver round, the .327 Federal Magnum. It can also fire any of the straight walled .32 revolver rounds without modification of the cylinder, if you prefer to practice with a softer recoiling round, or just for plinking, yet still has the ability to provide tremendous power for self defense. Then there is the .357 Mag/.38 Special and the .45LC. And I would take the .45LC over the .45 Auto in a revolver any day of the week. Give me a soft recoiling cartridge that lobs a huge 250 grain bullet at 900-1,000 fps over a harder recoiling cartridge lobbing a smaller 230 grain bullet at 900-1,000 fps any day of the week.

Auto cartridges choose compromises built around working in an auto pistol, revolvers have an entirely different set of cartridge compromises, so why limit your revolver with compromises meant for another type of firearm? If the cost of .45LC ammo over .45 Auto seems too great, then reload. The .45LC is much easier to reload than the .45 Auto and works better with big old cheap lead bullets than the .45 Auto, plus the brass for a .45LC will last much, much longer than .45 Auto brass....and you don't need to run around looking for all your brass, just dump it in a bag at your firing point.

[rigrat]

I don't know why so many seem enamored of firing auto pistol rounds in revolvers when there are so many really good revolver rounds that work better?

Taurus' new .44 Special revolver for instance fires a great revolver round, especially if you reload. The M327 (oh, why doesn't Taurus make a 4" barreled version) is another great revolver in a great little revolver round, the .327 Federal Magnum. It can also fire any of the straight walled .32 revolver rounds without modification of the cylinder, if you prefer to practice with a softer recoiling round, or just for plinking, yet still has the ability to provide tremendous power for self defense. Then there is the .357 Mag/.38 Special and the .45LC. And I would take the .45LC over the .45 Auto in a revolver any day of the week. Give me a soft recoiling cartridge that lobs a huge 250 grain bullet at 900-1,000 fps over a harder recoiling cartridge lobbing a smaller 230 grain bullet at 900-1,000 fps any day of the week.

Auto cartridges choose compromises built around working in an auto pistol, revolvers have an entirely different set of cartridge compromises, so why limit your revolver with compromises meant for another type of firearm? If the cost of .45LC ammo over .45 Auto seems too great, then reload. The .45LC is much easier to reload than the .45 Auto and works better with big old cheap lead bullets than the .45 Auto, plus the brass for a .45LC will last much, much longer than .45 Auto brass....and you don't need to run around looking for all your brass, just dump it in a bag at your firing point.

1. Don't know why you are so much against it. Just don't get one and leave the choice for others to decide if they want to.

2. I believe the 44 special would be a good round and have entertained the thought of one, but would rather have a revolver in .45 acp because I have 3 45 acp auto's. The 45 acp auto is a great round in its self, proven though out countless battle fields. Much like the 45 lc was proven on the Western front. Have also thought about the .327 but myself don't want to add another round to the pile. I don't feel that 20 grains difference in the 2 rounds is really going to make a difference and don't understand how you think the 45 acp is a hard recoiling round. Maybe you just haven't shot it much.

3. Who cares about the compromises that are made to create the various rounds? All I care about is does the round fill the need that I have for it. Reload , have always wanted to but as of now I'm not set up for it so not a option. Lead shoots better, well I generally prefer Jacketed HP/soft points over lead round nose bullet styles. But then again I don't reload either. If I was firing the 45 acp out of a revolver which is the topic, I wouldn't have to run around and look for the brass, would get dumped in the bag as you say.

We all have our likes and dislikes, and I do appreciate your opinion, but my opinion is as such I like the ideal.

[TheOldRedneck]

I shoot both and do handload. As a kid had a 1917 Smith with 1/2 moon clips and ball ammo was cheap. I still shoot revolvers in 45 acp, 45 Colt , and 454. Load for all of them. I own and shoot several 44 specials, some in custom, love a Ruger old model that started life as a 357. Was shooting and still do the .32 S&W long way before the 32 H&R or 327. I shoot different guns and calibers because of personal likes, leave alone the ones I dont. There are just as many that do not understand why some of us like rifle rounds in revolvers. I shoot a .30 carbine Blackhawk, 45/70 BFR, and have owned Hornets, Bees and wildcats in revolvers. When I was a kid and met an old man that built wildcats I ask why he went to all that trouble. His answer still rings true, "Those that don't understand were not ment to." Different people like/enjoy different things for different reasons. Does not make the ones that don't right or wrong, just different taste.

[daytonaredeye]

I think one of the appealing characteristics for 45ACP is that it is usually available pretty much anywhere nowadays (compared to a couple of years ago during ammo paranoia) and, according to some of the previous responses to this post, is cheaper for plinking than 45LC. I don't know this for sure as I don't shoot it but I do have three 45ACP autos and, thus, am knee deep in 45ACP ammo. While the Judge is an extremely popular platform for the mixed cartridge capabilities, as well as being the most popular selling revolver nowadays, I am one of those who would save up and pay a little extra for an S&W Governor which includes the 45ACP capability unless Taurus upgrades their Judge platform to include this cartridge. They seem to come out with a different Judge model every 4-6 months so I would expect to see this by the end of 2012 - especially if they begin to see a sustained drop in Judge sales as the Governor gains market traction. However . . . . . . . . . . as has been stated on this forum many times over, Taurus doesn't exactly seem to follow any rhyme or reason in their methods for product design, marketing, etc - all the usual and customary attributes of successful companies. . . . .


In no way is this meant as a ding against 45LC - - it is a very popular caliber with a strong history. My dad has somewhere in the neighborhood of 20 or so 45LC revolvers and reloads it like there is no tomorrow. Interestingly, he has no 45ACP guns and, in fact, no auto pistols - he is a revolver nut. I, on the other hand, have no revolvers and am pretty loaded with auto pistols. That is our generational gap, I guess.

[GunsandNoses]

The reason I want a judge that can fire .45 ACP is I like redundancy in my weapons and I already have a .45 ACP .
I am getting a .410 for the wife.
If the judge could handle 2 types of ammo I already stock it becomes a better option for me and I would buy one, but I wont buy a judge just for the .410 and I have no desire to start adding another caliber (.45LC) to my limited ammo budget.

[Delta53]

I own a S&W Governor and it's a great handgun. It's very light for it's size and there are endless types of grips you can put on it. It holds 6 shots and the front sight is a Tritium night site. It shoots the 45 ACP pretty accurate with those moon clips. In fact I save the 45lc for my Judges and just shoot the 410's and 45 ACP out of it. It would not make a good concealed weapon but it is very high quality handgun. The 45 ACP is also a lot cheaper and easier to obtain than the 45lc. So I would suggest either wait for Taurus to make a Judge that shoots the 45 ACP or buy a S&W Governor.

[Qwiks draw]

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Those cover a majority of online ammo sources. I'm sure others will add their online sources as well. Unless you are a reload your own ammo person. It makes sense to do that with the prices of commercial ammo.

[daytonaredeye]

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Those cover a majority of online ammo sources. I'm sure others will add their online sources as well. Unless you are a reload your own ammo person. It makes sense to do that with the prices of commercial ammo.

Thanks for those links Qwicks! Much better prices than I've run into on other sites - eg.; Cheaper than Dirt, Brownells, etc . . ..

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[Taurus_9mm]

I don't see why you couldn't have the cylinder machined to accept the moon clips.

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A friend of mine on another forum did just this although it was done on a Ruger Redhawk.