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    I agree some can be found with some searching however in general there is a real lack of availability of magazines from Taurus. I just think it is crazy that Taurus does not have magazines available for order from them directly for every model they make or made or at least contract with a company to always have them available. The problem seems that Taurus just does not make enough magazines for the market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishinkeylargo View Post
    I agree some can be found with some searching however in general there is a real lack of availability of magazines from Taurus. I just think it is crazy that Taurus does not have magazines available for order from them directly for every model they make or made or at least contract with a company to always have them available. The problem seems that Taurus just does not make enough magazines for the market.
    Exactly, they don't seem to understand that some of us feel 5 mags is the target for each gun. Heck, my competition gun has 15! Given how the mags are snapped up and often resold on escambay, you'd think they would see the trend and fill the demand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishinkeylargo View Post
    I agree some can be found with some searching however in general there is a real lack of availability of magazines from Taurus. I just think it is crazy that Taurus does not have magazines available for order from them directly for every model they make or made or at least contract with a company to always have them available. The problem seems that Taurus just does not make enough magazines for the market.
    Really? Call S&W, and ask them for a replacement magazine for a Model 39, or a Model 745. Call Colt for a magazine for a Model 1903, or a Woodsman. Until it was placed back into production, Sig didn't have any mags for the P6. Let us know what Walther says about P38 mags, as well. Call us when S&W sells you a replacement magazine for an Escort, or a Model 4006. NONE of the S&W magazines mentioned are carried in their Stores of 1355 hours.

    Why would we expect Taurus to do something as inventory intensive when none of the other manufacturers do?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JR View Post
    Really? Call S&W, and ask them for a replacement magazine for a Model 39, or a Model 745. Call Colt for a magazine for a Model 1903, or a Woodsman. Until it was placed back into production, Sig didn't have any mags for the P6. Let us know what Walther says about P38 mags, as well. Call us when S&W sells you a replacement magazine for an Escort, or a Model 4006. NONE of the S&W magazines mentioned are carried in their Stores of 1355 hours.

    Why would we expect Taurus to do something as inventory intensive when none of the other manufacturers do?
    "Every" might be a little extreme.

    It is just very frustrating when there is not ample supply of magazines for guns they make or recently made. How long did it take for magazines to become available for the TCP and the PT709, a very long time. Magazines for the Carbine rifles nearly impossible to find even when guns were in production. PT-58 Taurus says magazines are available, well I'm still waiting. The new Curve, no magazines available. I'm sure there are other examples that others can mention. Like I said just frustrating.
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    I wasn't the one who posted the "every" comment, sir. I simply replied to it.

    I actually bought two Taurus-carded magazines for a PT58 in early 2015 from CDNN. They were, IIRC, about $25.00 each. For how many years did the majority of people keep whatever number of magazines that came with the gun as sufficient? Only in the time since we got this pitiful excuse for a President have so many people decided to obtain guns, and, with the rush to manufacture them, did manufacturers switch to a single magazine in the initial purchase.

    My original purchases of Ruger Mk rim-fires all arrived with a single magazine. My S&W Model 39 came with a single magazine. Even my Sig P229 and P220 had only a single, lonely magazine with them in the box. Later, manufacturers started shipping with two magazines. My FNP came with THREE 14 round .45 ACP mags. Tried to find them lately?

    Magazines are made in batches. Many different ones are made on the same machinery. Machinery is scheduled months in advance for those runs. Usually spare magazines are built based on the number of projected weapons to be built. Only in America do people think that four to ten magazines are "necessary" for a gun that sees maybe a thousand rounds a year put through it. It only takes a relatively small number of people deciding to get a "few spares" to cause failures in the supply.

    Years ago, Johnny Carson made a comment that we were suffering a shortage of toilet paper in Atlanta, and he advised people to "stock up". It was a joke. Yet, inside of 24 hours, the stores in the city were barren of toilet paper. He actually had to tell people that he had been joking. Stores were receiving tractor-trailer loads of TP, and selling out in a matter of hours.

    I'm not too sure that we aren't seeing the same thing. Low production, and low sales, items aren't going to get the huge numbers of accessory parts. Discontinued items in every other mass-produced product are pretty much limited to stock on hand when the item is discontinued. An OEM production line oil filter for a 1970 Hemi V-8 today brings $1000, when you can find one. Why? OUT OF PRODUCTION.

    Even automotive safety and emissions products are continued to be stocked by law for five years after production is stopped on the model.

    Want more magazines? Let Mec-Gar, ACT, and Metalform all know that you're interested in buying them. Triple-K, National, ProMag, and some other smaller makers also sell them, with the usual QC associated. I've also seen Korean mags that worked quite well. They are normally advertised as Asian Military.

    FYI, I have accumulated four mags for each of my semi-autos. Two for carry, and two for range work. If I can find four mags for an FN Model 1922 in .32 ACP, I can't see how it's so hard to find other magazines. I'm not rich, so spending $50-75 each magazine is out of the question, to boot.
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    Ha! You should try to find mags for the PT140 G2 that is being advertised in dang near every gun magazine out there as the latest and greatest. Even Taurus isn't quite sure about the mags. They sell PT140 Pro mags, but customer service can't tell you for sure they will work in the PT140 G2. The mags for the G2 have PT140 G2 stamped on the mags. Does anyone have actual experience using PT140 millenium​ Pro mags successfully in a PT140 G2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick3bears View Post
    Ha! You should try to find mags for the PT140 G2 that is being advertised in dang near every gun magazine out there as the latest and greatest. Even Taurus isn't quite sure about the mags. They sell PT140 Pro mags, but customer service can't tell you for sure they will work in the PT140 G2. The mags for the G2 have PT140 G2 stamped on the mags. Does anyone have actual experience using PT140 millenium​ Pro mags successfully in a PT140 G2?
    Yes, thankfully. There was a major redesign of the plastic mag follower and I was worried it might affect feed, but my old Mil Pro PT140 mags worked just fine in new PT140 G2 Mil Taurus replacement. I didn't try any of of my PT24/7 G1 mags, but since they worked in the Mil Pro I expect they will work in G2 Mil.

    Forgive the dirty - haven't cleaned from range trip. L&R G2 Mil; Middle Mil Pro. Also note the small "ear" follower stop.
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    Taurus Reps should be reading these comments. To take a hint and start making more magazines for ALL models.
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    Once again, please explain to me how a company should be required to stock magazines for out of production models? The last PT58 was built around 1995, eleven years ago. The PT58HC Plus uses a totally different magazine, as well. Most manufacturers of commercial products keep only a normal supply of spare parts on hand when a product is discontinued. When that supply is exhausted, they expect you to buy a replacement piece.

    For that matter, Taurus has managed to keep entire guns in pretty good stock throughout the debacle of the Obama years. Doing so undoubtedly cuts into production scheduling for small parts. I'm certain that they could simply cut back on production of firearms, and concentrate on those magazines, instead. However, that would then leave them open to whines about "we can't find them anywhere". Something we're already seeing. They've been able to keep PT111G2 magazines available, despite the sales surge. PT92 and PT100 mags are available, and even the discontinued PT638 mags are in stock.

    Americans seem to think in herds. Ten years ago, spare mags were mostly an afterthought for the majority of buyers. The factory usually shipped with one spare, and two mags seemed to suit most. Suddenly, we need four, six, eight, or more, magazines per weapon. Multiply that by the tens of thousands of weapons, and there's no way for a manufacturer to be able to keep pace. Worse, if they gear up production, they run the risk of having TOO MANY when we decide we have enough, and they are stuck in inventory.

    Why is it that Taurus needs to make magazines for all of their guns, but nobody else?
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