I just done a water expansion test on their .40 jhp. I got 26" penetration and 0 expansion.
Ya but the thing is I shot all of those boxes. So I don't navy any to send back to them
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I just done a water expansion test on their .40 jhp. I got 26" penetration and 0 expansion.
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what type/brand of JHP do they load??
all JHP's are not designed for self defense (expansion) some are designed as target loads and not designed to expand but make the projectile more stable.
Zero Bullets are of this design.
when ordering bullets one needs to be sure they are getting what they think they are getting for it intended use, looks can be decieving many times.
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It was a jhp with serations. Looks like it was supposed to expand
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Well, the price looks good- even with shipping.
I wondered what bullet was in the hollow points? Hate to hear they did not open up in water. Maybe olefarhors may have identified the problem- target ammo. I selected 380 jhp in a 250 rd box and it will ship to me- on the other side of the US- for about $0.33 per round. Thats pretty reasonable.
edit: I didn't order 250 rounds, i just ran through their cart thingy so I could see the shipping cost.
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yea, without knowing which projectile it is hard to say.
I normally load the Rainers 115 Gr, Round nose plated as target ammo in my 9 mm, But Midway ahd the 115 grain hollow point Rainers Plated on sale cheaper than the R/N so i ordered them.
Now i had/have no thought of using this as a self defense round, but out of curosity i while outside at a buddys place tried them as expansion, mostly cause he had a bunch of water jugs and denim and was testing different factory rounds, so heck let me see out of curosity.
these also have serrations in the front of the jacket (plated part)
Now these are loaded in the 38 Super at about 1200 FPS, the penetrated 3 milk jugs, and dug into the mud bank behind them, passing through 2 layers of blue jean in front of the milk jugs.
the round expanded about to 45 caliber or so and was not a pretty exapnsion being lop sided.
so all hollow points are not created equal, AND 1200 fps is plenty fas enough to expand if so designed.
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For what it's worth, there's a 10 % off with the code "first10", a case of their "Blaster" line costs $168 with shipping. Quite attractive!
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I just as looking at the shipping prices, from 4000 rounds of 9mm shipping is like $80. 5,000 it was $575
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Maybe a glitch? You can always order 4 cases, then another case?
no it went from ground to overnight being the only thing available.
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