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			<title>Standard .38 Special in a 617</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 06:33:29 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Hey all...got a question for 'ya, but first some background. 
I recently purchased a very lightly used 617 (stainless).  I purchased the gun hoping...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Hey all...got a question for 'ya, but first some background.<br />
I recently purchased a very lightly used 617 (stainless).  I purchased the gun hoping it would be something both my wife and I would enjoy shooting.  My hope was that the relatively heavy weight of this snubnose combined with light for caliber standard .38's would result in a very comfortable shooting experience.  So far it has met those expectations.<br />
However, I did some accuracy testing today and have some concerns.  Hopefully you all can give me some insight...<br />
I was shooting 130 grain standard .38's (Rem. UMC) at about 7 yards.  The groups were excellent and exceeded my expectations.  But, it took me a while to get dialed in as everything was hitting extremely low.  Like 6-8 inches low.  In order to put rounds where I wanted them I had to hold aim high enough to completely obscure what I actually wanted to hit.  It worked, but wasn't a very intuitive experience...to say the least.<br />
Is this to be expected considering this is a fixed sight model that is chambered for the .357 magnum cartridge?  I really want to stick with standard .38's for maximum shootability, but I'm not sure I can tolerate having to aim like that regularly or, if it ever came to it, defensively.  Should I try other standard .38 ammo (not that I have much opportunity to acquire any right now) or will I likely be better served getting something chambered for .38 specifically. Thanks!</div>

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			<title><![CDATA[Photo of Smith & Wesson SW9VE from Trayvon Martin's Cell Phone]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 05:44:42 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[No one knows whose had is holding the pistol in the photo from Trayvon Martin's cell phone, but the pistol is a Smith and Wesson SW9VE. 
Photo from...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>No one knows whose had is holding the pistol in the photo from Trayvon Martin's cell phone, but the pistol is a Smith and Wesson SW9VE.<br />
Photo from Trayvon Martin's Cell Phone<br />
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			<title>Burglary suspect killed by homeowner may be linked to other crimes</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 04:11:49 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Saw this in my local news this week.  Sheriff stated the homeowner has a CCW and is well qualified with firearms.  Charges will not be filed but it...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>Saw this in my local news this week.  Sheriff stated the homeowner has a CCW and is well qualified with firearms.  Charges will not be filed but it is under investigation.  They would have to prove this wasn't in defense of himself or home. <br />
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Another BG who made the wrong move. <a href="http://www.krtv.com/news/burglary-suspect-killed-by-homeowner-may-be-linked-to-other-crimes/" target="_blank">Burglary suspect killed by homeowner may be linked to other crimes | KRTV.com | Great Falls, Montana</a>...... <br />
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The laws in Montana are pretty clear on what you can defend and how far you can go.  &quot;Montana Code Annotated:<br />
 &quot;45-3-103. Use of force in defense of occupied structure.  (1) A person is justified in the use of force or threat to use force against another when and to the extent that the person reasonably believes that the use of force is necessary to prevent or terminate the other person's unlawful entry into or attack upon an occupied structure. <br />
     (2) A person justified in the use of force pursuant to subsection (1) is justified in the use of force likely to cause death or serious bodily harm only if: <br />
     (a) the entry is made or attempted and the person reasonably believes that the force is necessary to prevent an assault upon the person or another then in the occupied structure; or <br />
     (b) the person reasonably believes that the force is necessary to prevent the commission of a forcible felony in the occupied structure. &quot; -<a href="http://data.opi.mt.gov/bills/mca/45/3/45-3-103.htm" target="_blank">45-3-103. Use of force in defense of occupied structure.</a><br />
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 This is an interesting code:<br />
 &quot;45-3-110. No duty to summon help or flee.  Except as provided in 45-3-105, a person who is lawfully in a place or location and who is threatened with bodily injury or loss of life has no duty to retreat from a threat or summon law enforcement assistance prior to using force. The provisions of this section apply to a person offering evidence of justifiable use of force under 45-3-102, 45-3-103, or 45-3-104. &quot;</div>

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			<title>extractor issue</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 04:04:06 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>well here goes. I seem to be having an issue with my extractor, quite often my Taurus 24/7 9mm fails to extract the casings. I am not sure if the...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>well here goes. I seem to be having an issue with my extractor, quite often my Taurus 24/7 9mm fails to extract the casings. I am not sure if the problem is the spring on these extractors is so stiff or just because the extractor was designed close to flat. I know that I have the option of sending it in to Taurus but with my current situation I am not so sure that it would work best for me. I live in Colorado and we passed a law as many of you may know to ban any magazines over 10 rounds. That said if I send my firearm in it must be sent with a mag and all I have is 17rnd mags. there is a chance it will get returned without the magazine. this law is taking affect come July so pretty soon. Does anyone know of a way to get ahold of an extractor? Taurus will not sell one and I have yet to find one on the internet</div>

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			<title>If you were looking for another holster option for your G2..</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 03:43:21 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>If you were looking for a good holster for your PT111 G2 and thought your only option was Theis, I just wanted to give you a heads up, even though...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>If you were looking for a good holster for your PT111 G2 and thought your only option was Theis, I just wanted to give you a heads up, even though Old Faithful doesnt have the G2 listed on their site, they informed me today they DO in fact have shells for it now.<br />
As some of you may know Old Faithful makes great hybrids, thicker leather than most (and its English briddle) and .093&quot; Kydex instead of .080&quot; or God forbid .060&quot;.I love the way thicker Kydex looks when its formed and its much stronger.<br />
When you order they said to just select the PT111 (even though it says &quot;Gen1 only&quot;) from the drop down menu, and in the comment box when you order, state its for a G2, and theyll get you sorted.<br />
 I own multiple Old Faithfuls, and think they are one of the best hybrid holsters you can buy, and cheaper than most others if you do the self build kit.<br />
I just bought the G2 shell for one of their holsters I already have (another great feature, being able to swap shells) so I'll post a pic up once it comes!</div>

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			<dc:creator>Rawmade</dc:creator>
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			<title>Scrapple</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 03:27:15 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>We moved to the mountains of Western Maryland right after getting married. 
It was ... a change. 
Country music, head cheese, country ham, an accent...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div>We moved to the mountains of Western Maryland right after getting married.<br />
It was ... a change.<br />
Country music, head cheese, country ham, an accent that took us a year to understand, and...<br />
<b><font size="3">Scrapple</font></b><br />
<b>Ingredients</b><br />
<ul><li style="">3-pound bone-in pork butt, trimmed of visible fat</li><li style="">4 quarts water</li><li style="">Salt and pepper to taste</li><li style="">1-1/2 teaspoons dried thyme</li><li style="">2 teaspoons rubbed sage</li><li style="">1 teaspoon ground savory</li><li style="">dash allspice</li><li style="">dash ground nutmeg</li><li style="">dash ground cloves</li><li style="">3 cups corn meal</li></ul><br />
<b>Directions</b><br />
<ol class="decimal"><li style="">Boil pork butt ~ 2 hours, until tender</li><li style="">Remove meat, reserve stock</li><li style="">When the meat is cool enough, remove from the bones, discard "excess" fat (You have to define excess - but his is <b>not</b> health food)</li><li style="">Chop meat finely. Just how finely is hard to describe. You don't want chunks, but you don't want ground meat either.</li><li style="">Return 2-1/2 quarts of the stock to the pot.</li><li style="">Add spices.</li><li style="">Bring to a boil.</li><li style="">Slowly add corn meal, whisking steadily</li><li style="">Cook for 15 minutes, stirring to keep it smooth, until very thick. This means that it should <i>almost</i> hold a spoon upright. If it gets too thick, add a little stock and cook a bit longer.</li><li style="">Add meat</li><li style="">Cook another 15 minutes stirring occasionally.</li><li style="">You can add more spices at this point. Mixture should <i>not</i> be bland.</li><li style="">Spray 2 9x5 loaf pans with cooking spray</li><li style="">Put wax paper in bottom of pans</li><li style="">Pour/spoon mixture into pans</li><li style="">Cover and refrigerate overnight.</li></ol><br />
Slice and fry.</div>

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			<dc:creator>MadKaw</dc:creator>
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			<title>The Hard Question</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 03:03:26 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Justification</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 03:01:36 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>It All Started Here</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 03:00:07 GMT</pubDate>
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			<title>Uncle Ted has a movie</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 02:52:03 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Assaulted ? Civil Rights Under Fire (http://www.deadpatriotfilms.com/assaulted/)</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://www.deadpatriotfilms.com/assaulted/" target="_blank">Assaulted ? Civil Rights Under Fire</a></div>

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			<title>Breaking News: I-5 bridges collapse into the Skagit River</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 02:48:05 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Cars and bodies in water >>> Update: So far, no fatalities 
 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Cars-bodies-in-Skagit-River-after-I-5-Bridge-collapse--208760201.html" target="_blank">Cars and bodies in water &gt;&gt;&gt; Update: So far, no fatalities<br />
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</a><a href="http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/i-5-skagit-river-bridge-collapses-people-vehicles-/nX2d5/" target="_blank">Bridge collapse Washington Interstate 5 | www.kirotv.com</a><br />
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The alternate route across the river takes traffic right through downtown Burlington and Mt. Vernon. That area is congested as is.<br />
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Luckily it wasn't mid-span that went down and those stranded can be reached. Another plus is the Skagit isn't running high at the moment.<br />
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<b>ETA: </b>If anyone had any holiday weekend plans for the North Puget Sound area, still time to change your plans.<br />
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UPDATE: State DOT is investigating an overheight truck load that struck the bridge. Three rescued so far.<br />
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&gt;&gt; No reported deaths. State Patrol has stopped an oversize load.</div>

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			<dc:creator>Three Percent</dc:creator>
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			<title>My  85-B-2-UL - Great Trigger... How bout yours?</title>
			<link>http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/taurus-revolvers/96985-my-85-b-2-ul-great-trigger-how-bout-yours.html</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 01:50:54 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Double post... moderators please remove this one. Thx</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><font color="#333333">Double post... moderators please remove this one. Thx</font></div>

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			<dc:creator>Marlin336</dc:creator>
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			<title>Cool Video</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 01:06:09 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>Off topic for sure but pretty cool.... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151646236465450</description>
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			<title>crazy 911 story</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 00:29:51 GMT</pubDate>
			<description>911 Dispatcher Tells Woman About To Be Sexually Assaulted There Are No Cops To Help Her Due To Budget Cuts « CBS Seattle...</description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div><a href="http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2013/05/23/911-dispatcher-tells-woman-about-to-be-sexually-assaulted-there-are-no-cops-to-help-her-due-to-budget-cuts/" target="_blank">911 Dispatcher Tells Woman About To Be Sexually Assaulted There Are No Cops To Help Her Due To Budget Cuts « CBS Seattle</a><br />
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&quot;Uh, I don’t have anybody to send out there,” the 911 dispatcher told the woman. “You know, obviously, if he comes inside the residence and assaults you, can you ask him to go away? Do you know if he’s intoxicated or anything?&quot;”</div>

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			<dc:creator>vaskeet</dc:creator>
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			<title>Best Beer For Sure</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 00:24:46 GMT</pubDate>
			<description><![CDATA[Voted best country? I don't know about that but the beer and sausage are top shelf. 
 
Germany is the 'Most Popular Country in the World'...]]></description>
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