Sounds like good common sense came thru again. I never under stand why so many people run out and buy what even the newest ,oh so promoted handgun is. I ended up with tcp a different way. I tried to shot any and all the 380s I could knowing I wanted one for when my kahrs were to big. A year later I bought my tcp. Other than the sharp edged pmc "junk" hp it seems to feed every other hp offered to it and I have try 6 other major brands. I also never cared for how a pistol looked. They are all just tools after all. Only other taurus i have is a model 85SS that I cc'd for 20 years and no s&w has a better da trigger pull.