Newb Question about LS...

[Im Clutch]

OK, I am new at this but learning fast. My question is what is the difference in Long Slide and a... err... uh... regular (compact?)

slide? I have a 24/7-9SSP-17, with a 4" barrel. What does the LS get you? Accuracy? More slide = less jams? I haven't had ANY

problems with jams (knocking on wood like all get out right now) If using for CC, it seems the shorter barrel is more comfortable. I

don't have problems with the carry in a supertuck... Like a lot of other people on the board, I had accuracy problems in the

beginning. I was shooting a 3" spread at 25 yards. Yes, I know it can be me, but it was too consistent. I used a laser site and

it was like the laser was dead nuts on and the gun was pointing 3"-4" high... after about 500 rounds, it straightened out. Does

the LS improve accuracy? Does it just mean a longer barrel? If that's the case, it would make sense that it would improve

accuracy. Does an inch or two of barrel make the difference? How and why?...Just curious...

Thanks in advance and best regards... Clutch

[Davidk0031]

LS long slide is 5.25" barrel, regular is 4.25, compacts & Mill Pro's are 3.25"

Longer barrel will give slight velocity increase. More weight out front for less muzzle flip, more weight for less felt recoil, and longer sight radius makes more accurate sight alignment easiers, but I don't think it won't shoot tighter groups just because the barrels longer.

3" group is outstanding, gun even in a machine rest probably can't do much better. Groups are measured by the largest circle that would contain all shoots, generally only 5 or so shots, often though we just measure the distance between the two farthest away, guys that get real picky then subtract the bullet diameter to get center to center. Since you called it a spread just curious what you meant.

My Mill Pro shot low at first but came up as I got 4-500 rnds thru it, been great for 2500+ more since then.

[olfarhors]

hell man it don't matter what you call it to me, 3 inch groups at 25 yards with a 4 inch barrel and you can call it anything you want!
Actually i have two 24/7 c (9mm & 45acp) and i very, very, very seldom shoot them at ranges in excess of 10 yards , maybe 15.
they are very reliable weapons, the longer barrel as mentioned above gives you a very little more velocity, the gun is no more acurate than a shorter barrel but the longer sight radius makes the shooter more accurate at getting a proper sight picture.
the main things that a long slide gets you is more weight, less concealability, and a bit more accuracy.
enjoy and shoot often.

[Im Clutch]

I used a rest and shot 8 shots. First two were high, but that was me adjusting the rest and the laser. 3rd was

where I wanted to be. 4th and 5th were 3" away from where I wanted to be, (that is where i came up with the "spread",

6th and 7th were about 2" from dead center and the 8th was almost on top of the 3rd. I guess I thought that with a rest

and a laser, I would be able to put lead through holes I had already made. I guess I was looking for it be all within dead center.

Maybe now is where I learn to re-load? I am new to the "art" of pistols and never really spent much time on a range other

than a couple weeks before deer season(when I was younger with my dad) just to make sure the .06 was where it should be. I

have had a blast getting back into guns especially enjoying the pistols! I ordered a 66b4 and look forward to trying out the

revolver. It has been fun with my boys. I have learned a lot from this forum and appreciate the replies.

[olfarhors]

nope!
if you want to shoot holes inside holes then you got to buy you a Taurus PT1911.- LOL

[Im Clutch]

Thanks olfarhors, looks like I need another 'un

[Davidk0031]

Slap a scope on the 66 and you'll get closer to being able to make one jagged hole, but with auto pistols (other than finely fitted 1911's) is just doesn't happen. Most gun mag test guns range for 3-4" 5 rnd groups at 25 yards.

Don't know if you can scope a 4" on though, I've got a 1987 66 satin nickle 6".

Reloading 357 is a great place to start, that's what I started with 20+ years ago.

[big jim]

I would question the use of a laser beyond 25 feet on a handgun. The way lasers work is that they are set for a certain distance mine 21 feet and are accurate to that distance. Beyond that distance it would be questionable as to their accuracy.

[Davidk0031]

Laser & sights or scopes are no different in that they all are zeroed at a certain distance. Sights or scopes are above the bore so if the sights are perfectly level, the bore is pointed up slightly to make the bullet come up and cross the line of sights at a set distance, then gravity pulls it back down to cross the line of sight again so you have 2 dead on distances.

With a laser below the barrel, if the laser is perfectly level, the bore has to be angled down to cross the beam at what ever distance the shooter chooses, and continues down to get farther and farther away from the beam as the distance increases.

So if you have your laser sighted for 10' assuming 1" between bore and laser, by 30' you'll be 2" low. If you sight it for 50' you'll be 1/2" high at 25', 1/2" low at 75. (roughly)

I have a gamo PT80 it's laser is quite a bit below the barrel, it pratically worthless if you want to hit a small target at close distance.

[for2nato]

the other thing the longer barrel does is put a more solid twist on the slug. which make for a flatter flight pattern. i personally think your wasting your time a 25 yards. your shooting a personal defense handgun. not a .06. its not a hunting rifle. and self defense range is alot closer. like maybe 25 feet. 25 yards is 3 times that distance. i also dont shoot my pistols out farther than 15 yards. and thats pushing it. since i shoot for defensive technique i practice a lot at 3 and 7 yards. and not target shooting. defensive shooting only. if i want to target shoot i break out a target pistol like the 22 or a rifle. all im really saying is try not to have too high of expectations of your pistol. im sure its accurate enough. bring it in to about 15 yards and try it from the rest and see how the shots land